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Love Beach vs In The Hot Seat

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Poll Question: Which is better?
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    Posted: March 31 2013 at 06:55
Originally posted by ExittheLemming

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I'm gonna make love to ya', down on Love Beach............make all your dreeeeeams, come true. 
 Yeah, righty-oh, Mr Lake..................just sit on your throne and watch the lobsters in your bathroom..........
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2013 at 07:20
Whatever the lyrical shortcomings I have learned to rather like  Love Beach. Terribly disappointed at  first but with hindsight I rather like it. Not classic ELp by any means but...
Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote HolyMoly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2013 at 07:27
I would include "All I Want is You" on an ELP best-of compilation.  
I've never heard Hot Seat, so no vote.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2013 at 07:36
^^ @ SnowDog -  It attracts a lot of flak from people who clearly have never heard it and continue to confuse the cover with the contents

BTW  you are spot on re the intolerable pressures and adverse circumstances the band endured (courtesy of Ahmet Ertegun of Atlantic) when recording Love Beach in the Bahamas.Thumbs Up

You've sold over 50 millions units worldwide for your fabulously wealthy employer, who then asks you to make a pop album to appease 4 spiky haired music jornalists in London ? get f.u.c.k.e.d Ahmet...(should have been the response)


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wanorak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2013 at 10:36
Love Beach for me. Other than a couple of cheesy tracks I like it. Greg Lake sounds great vocally and the band is very tight.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Misomex777 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2013 at 10:51
Love Beach is better overall but ITHS has the best track of both albums "Hand of Truth"Cool
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Post Options Post Options   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:34
I don't think I've ever been able to listen to one of those albums in one shot. Not totally for the trash can, there are worse things around, but if I want some ELP I likely start with Trilogy
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Doctor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:37
Love Beach by an ocean.  I think that album really gets such a bad rap because of the cheesy cover.  No, it's not BSS or Tarkus or my personal favorite Trilogy, but it isn't that bad.  In the Hot Seat on the other hand should have been called Down the Toilet.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stool Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 04:33

Before I started this poll, I wanted to 'rehabilitate' Love Beach's popularity, as it's the butt of so many jokes around here (I rarely see In The Hot Seat being used in that way.)

 
Now my work is done, look at the percentages:
 
18 [85.71%]
3 [14.29%]


Edited by Stool Man - April 01 2013 at 04:35
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 07:28
If a little more thought from the art department went into presenting the bloody thing, it may have saved it a lot of flack.  The cover shot is atrocious.  The back photo was quite mellow LOL. One of the worst covers of any record I own - even the 'Hawklords' album cover had a bit of intrigue to it.......not that it was much better..........
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 07:34
Originally posted by Tom Ozric

If a little more thought from the art department went into presenting the bloody thing, it may have saved it a lot of flack.  The cover shot is atrocious.  The back photo was quite mellow LOL. One of the worst covers of any record I own - even the 'Hawklords' album cover had a bit of intrigue to it.......not that it was much better..........

WEll the whole band hate the  cover and Emerson lobbied Atlantic to change the album title.
Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 13:30
Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by Tom Ozric

If a little more thought from the art department went into presenting the bloody thing, it may have saved it a lot of flack.  The cover shot is atrocious.  The back photo was quite mellow LOL. One of the worst covers of any record I own - even the 'Hawklords' album cover had a bit of intrigue to it.......not that it was much better..........

WEll the whole band hate the  cover and Emerson lobbied Atlantic to change the album title.
Not much anyone could do, given the impatience and rushing surrounding the whole everything of it....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:50
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother

Haven't heard `Hot Seat' for quite some time, but `Love Beach' isn't quite the dog it's made out to be. Palmer's drumming in particular is terrific!

I think the sexually suggestive lyrics on `Taste Of My Love' (ugh, even that title!) are the worst thing about it!

Taste Of My Love is a real stinker but the rest isn't that bad and would have stood up as an ok 'pop prog' album with a decent production like Genesis had with Duke.

Although Palmer is very good its actually Lake that impresses me most which accounts for why he got slaughtered by ELP fans for supposedly dragging the band in a commercial direction ( to suit his own agenda goes the faulty argument).
Palmer later stated that it was only worth using as a coaster. Emerson is perhaps more the issue as his keyboard work is totally uninteresting even on the Memoirs suite. The March is especially half hearted. Its best explained by his own admission that he was very deflated after the collapse of the Works orchestral tour and felt the band had run its course ( it had). However that 'nasty' Mr Ahmet Ertegun made them carry on as they didn't have wills of their own (apparently)


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Post Options Post Options   Quote brainstormer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 16:06
I think it's best to remember that Peter Sinfield wrote the lyrics to Love Beach and he was headed
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2013 at 00:06
Originally posted by brainstormer

I think it's best to remember that Peter Sinfield wrote the lyrics to Love Beach and he was headed
in a serious pop direction in his career after the 70's.   
Yes - I noticed that he has some credits on a Bucks Fizz album I once saw (no, I DO NOT own it.....) - I think Mel Collins played sax on it too, but then he played with most everybody............
And there is a similar sound to Love Beach as to Duke.  I guess we all have more time for the first 5 ELP albums, but LB is still enjoyable.
The next poll should be Love Beach or Tormato.............LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote antonyus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2013 at 01:24
Originally posted by martinprog77

n The Hot Seat...at lease it has a decent album cover  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ivan_Melgar_M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2013 at 01:35
In the Hot Seat because of the good studio version of Pictures in Dolby Surround.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote King Crimson776 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2013 at 01:49
^ That, plus Hand of Truth is better than most things from Love Beach.
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Originally posted by King Crimson776

^ That, plus Hand of Truth is better than most things from Love Beach.

If it was for the original material, i would had gone with Love Beach for CANARIO, wjhich is brillisannt, if it would had been released in Trilogy or BSS, would be considered a top 10 by many people who doesn't know it exists.

But that version of Pictures is brilliant.

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