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Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:57
Some folks seem to be misunderstanding my intent and some seem to think I have bad intentions or am a troll. My friends, nothing could be further from the truth!
I have a degree in sociology and therefore find it interesting that certain age groups tend be exposed to certain eras of prog while the younger fans give a wtf reaction many times when I mention these bands. Back in the day prog bands were either symphonic or not, heavy or not but usually weren't heavy plus complex etc. These days it's anything goes. Back then the bands followed certain unwritten rules more closely and in that sense things were maybe a bit more predictable compared to today. However, the point is many of you young fans are missing some great stuff and many of the older fans too. A lot of these bands go under the radar even in prog circles these days. THat is the point of this thread. It's not about being a hardcore collector. It's about being exposed. Don't get sucked into buying something just because it's new. Explore for yourself. I am not going to keep repeating myself here.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:55
lucas wrote:
None of the bands cited are forgotten, anyone into prog has heard of them.
There are other bands/artists that recorded some fantastic music but that don't have that much echo those days : Steel Mill Castle Canyon Narita Rhesus O Sacros Fort Mudge Memorial Dump Eishtlinn Bergendy Piramis Games Tamarisk Space Art Aquelarre Mahagon Diana Express Egba Wara The Cosmic Jokers (w/ Klaus Schulze)
^Okay, these ones are really, really obscure - except for the Cosmic Jokers, but I'm not sure this project was the best thing from Germany (at least, the musicians involved in it don't sound very enthusiastic about it).
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:34
None of the bands cited are forgotten, anyone into prog has heard of them.
There are other bands/artists that recorded some fantastic music but that don't have that much echo those days : Steel Mill Castle Canyon Narita Rhesus O Sacros Fort Mudge Memorial Dump Eishtlinn Bergendy Piramis Games Tamarisk Space Art Aquelarre Mahagon Diana Express Egba Wara The Cosmic Jokers (w/ Klaus Schulze)
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:15
Snow Dog wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Surrealist wrote:
I prefer the pre digital era Prog because I know for a fact the artists were actually playing the music. If I even suspect that the bands or artist has been copy and pasting sound files, using someone elses samples or digitally altering the timing of the rhythm tracks.. it goes right into the trash can. Why? Because they are not playing it.
There are kids releasing songs now on itunes that have never even held an instrument. It's become silly and I won't support it. You support that "Apple Garage Band" stuff, not me.
Frankly, I suspect that most of the 70's Prog artists were also a fraud: there's a reason for the Beatles to stop performing live. There's a reason for Pink Floyd using synthesizers and effects or Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson using electric keyboards instead of true pianos. And don't start me about Fripp and its "Frippertronics", another proof that Prog artists are nothing but conmen and swindlers!!!
Why, those fakers!!!!
Pft! It's not exactly news - I have listened to Yessongs and Exit...Stage Left several times and I'm convinced they are recordings, perhaps I'm not using the right equipment but when I get the black plastic thing out of the paper sleeve thing the neither Yes nor Rush appear in my living room to give a live performance of the songs listed on the back of the cardboard thing. Fraudulent advertising to say the least.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 11:10
I'm (18)some older bands(slightly lesser known) I like although still pretty well known include : soft machine, camel, mahavishnu orchestra, jean luc ponty, magma, caravan, gentle giant, mothers of invention, eloy, and gong. that being said i don't a fair amount of the bands on the list you've posted
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 10:11
CPicard wrote:
Surrealist wrote:
I prefer the pre digital era Prog because I know for a fact the artists were actually playing the music. If I even suspect that the bands or artist has been copy and pasting sound files, using someone elses samples or digitally altering the timing of the rhythm tracks.. it goes right into the trash can. Why? Because they are not playing it.
There are kids releasing songs now on itunes that have never even held an instrument. It's become silly and I won't support it. You support that "Apple Garage Band" stuff, not me.
Frankly, I suspect that most of the 70's Prog artists were also a fraud: there's a reason for the Beatles to stop performing live. There's a reason for Pink Floyd using synthesizers and effects or Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson using electric keyboards instead of true pianos. And don't start me about Fripp and its "Frippertronics", another proof that Prog artists are nothing but conmen and swindlers!!!
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 10:01
Surrealist wrote:
I prefer the pre digital era Prog because I know for a fact the artists were actually playing the music. If I even suspect that the bands or artist has been copy and pasting sound files, using someone elses samples or digitally altering the timing of the rhythm tracks.. it goes right into the trash can. Why? Because they are not playing it.
There are kids releasing songs now on itunes that have never even held an instrument. It's become silly and I won't support it. You support that "Apple Garage Band" stuff, not me.
Frankly, I suspect that most of the 70's Prog artists were also a fraud: there's a reason for the Beatles to stop performing live. There's a reason for Pink Floyd using synthesizers and effects or Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson using electric keyboards instead of true pianos. And don't start me about Fripp and its "Frippertronics", another proof that Prog artists are nothing but conmen and swindlers!!!
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 10:00
I agree with Dean. I heard of Renaissance completely by chance and if I had not checked out sub genre pages and the bands mentioned there, I may not have heard of the other bands mentioned in the OP either. You don't often see these bands figuring in forum discussions either, so how does one get to know in the first place, let alone forgetting about their existence.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 09:51
Surrealist wrote:
I prefer the pre digital era Prog because I know for a fact the artists were actually playing the music. If I even suspect that the bands or artist has been copy and pasting sound files, using someone elses samples or digitally altering the timing of the rhythm tracks.. it goes right into the trash can. Why? Because they are not playing it.
There are kids releasing songs now on itunes that have never even held an instrument. It's become silly and I won't support it. You support that "Apple Garage Band" stuff, not me.
Do you also only read books that were written with a quill pen?
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 09:02
I prefer the pre digital era Prog because I know for a fact the artists were actually playing the music. If I even suspect that the bands or artist has been copy and pasting sound files, using someone elses samples or digitally altering the timing of the rhythm tracks.. it goes right into the trash can. Why? Because they are not playing it.
There are kids releasing songs now on itunes that have never even held an instrument. It's become silly and I won't support it. You support that "Apple Garage Band" stuff, not me.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:21
I feature these artists you've listed on my weekly prog show, The Prog Rock Palace, kdvs.org, from 12-2 PM PST. I really love the 70s-era prog and those more obscure bands, including some that you listed, are featured prominently.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:18
CPicard wrote:
I think that the OP is trolling us: I never heard of any the bands he's talking and most of the names he wrote sound so phoney that I think he just made them up.
But mon Capitaine, ALL band names have been made up? by someone? at some point?
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 06:36
To be honest I think this thread is rather uselss since this is PA, only the complete newbies or those reluctant to explore 70's music will be unfamilier with the majority of bands listed in the OP, regardless of age. It also sounds from the tone of that OP like Prog_Traveller has a problem with people listening to modern prog, or that it's some how inferior to the classics.
For the record I'm 27 with a collection of nearly a 1000 albums, with somewhere between a quarter and a third of which are all from the 70's. Not really surprising since I joined the site a week after I turned 20.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 06:00
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Mastermind? I dont know every band in existence but now I can look em up. So dont get so pent up about someone not knowing an obscure band.
EDIT:
ah, they are from the 1990s... now I can see as that era rarely appeals to me. hardly any reviews either...., still i can download from itunes this and see what they are like. Cheers!
GREAT ALBUM .THEY MADE AN AMAZING COVER VERSION OF ELP
Edited by martinprog77 - April 01 2013 at 06:05
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