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    Posted: May 03 2013 at 15:09
I wonder if we can consider 2013 the reborn of neoprog, because there are over 18 albums released just now vs 17 of progressive metal!!!ClapClapClapClap
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Sold is more important than released Wink
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Is Justin Beiber Neoprog or Prog Metal?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Larree Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2013 at 15:38
Originally posted by Stool Man

Is Justin Beiber Neoprog or Prog Metal?

Neither.  Justin is neoprogapopadelicexpialidocious.  You have to BELIEB!  Cool  LOL  LOL  Beer
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Rebirth
Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Rebirth


I knew you'd pick up on that one.
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Originally posted by Larree

Originally posted by Stool Man

Is Justin Beiber Neoprog or Prog Metal?

Neither.  Justin is neoprogapopadelicexpialidocious.  You have to BELIEB!  Cool  LOL  LOL  Beer
 
What, he's not supercalifragilistic? LOL
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Neo-neo-prog 
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Originally posted by octopus-4

Sold  Better is more important than released Wink

Fixed. 
And probably the re-release of Marillion'S Radiation is probably a good thing for neoprog fans this year!
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I'd love to see more people turned into that true Neo-Prog from the 80s, Marillion, IQ, Pallas, Twelfth Night, etc. I just can't get why every bloody hipster here in Ukraine (I believe you folks got the same situation in the area you live in, the internets made all youth equal, didn't they) knows all Post-Punk from Joy Division to The Sound or even more obscure bands. But when it comes to other 80s gems, the same way romantic and touching as his "Garlands" or "Strange Times", all brilliant albums if you ask me, he just didn't know them. And don't want to. Looks like you just can't tumblr sad pictures with Fish, he's not instagrammable. Darn posers!

But what we see now is mostly New Prog Renaissance, with Steven Wilson in Billboard and Marillion selling out their tours. That's lovely
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Yeah, lets not.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote King Crimson776 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2013 at 02:38
I didn't really like the Comedy of Errors album, which was disappointing, as Disobey is pretty good for some of it. I recall liking that free mp3 on their page, from the '88 release, as well (ah, it's not there anymore).

I don't think I'd count Lifesigns, Big Big Train or even Thieves' Kitchen (at least from '08 onward) as neo. Other than that I dunno what is out.


Hmm, I like tracks 4 and 9 off the new album. This actually gets more symphonic than Disobey. My overall view might well change.


Edited by King Crimson776 - May 04 2013 at 03:19
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Originally posted by Prog-jester

I'd love to see more people turned into that true Neo-Prog from the 80s, Marillion, IQ, Pallas, Twelfth Night, etc. I just can't get why every bloody hipster here in Ukraine (I believe you folks got the same situation in the area you live in, the internets made all youth equal, didn't they) knows all Post-Punk from Joy Division to The Sound or even more obscure bands. But when it comes to other 80s gems, the same way romantic and touching as his "Garlands" or "Strange Times", all brilliant albums if you ask me, he just didn't know them. And don't want to. Looks like you just can't tumblr sad pictures with Fish, he's not instagrammable. Darn posers!

But what we see now is mostly New Prog Renaissance, with Steven Wilson in Billboard and Marillion selling out their tours. That's lovely


Yeah many bands are turning on that true neoprog, like Silver key, Credo and Comedy of Errors, but inserting new modern chiches
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. All "neo prog" is/was is a name given to a bunch of bands who set up in the early 1980's taking their influences from "classic" prog bands. To describe new or modern bands as such is simply ridiculous.

Further, virtually all of those bands who came to prominence at the time no longer make music that sounds anything like it did 30 years ago. Good, neither should it. The best of these bands see progressive rock music not as a box with which to fit in and be constrained, but, rather, as a philosophy, a way of doing things, and, crucially, of doing things differently. To have the freedom to make music that is intelligent and free from record industry manipulation, and pedants pre-conceived bias and perceptions.

I would rather not start yet another argument about sub-genres (honestly!), but people really do need to start understanding these matters a bit better.


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Lazland, well said!!
A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Hi,
TOTAL BS!
 
You guys just have not heard "The Trip" yet ... you might reconsider your words!
 
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Originally posted by lazland

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. All "neo prog" is/was is a name given to a bunch of bands who set up in the early 1980's taking their influences from "classic" prog bands. To describe new or modern bands as such is simply ridiculous.


but what about RED SAND, whose sound and manner is 99% MARILLION circa "Misplaced Childhood"? If Post-Pink has its Revival bands (INTERPOL and the bunch), why Neo-Prog wouldn't? I'd love to hear something in that vein, not just another DREAM THEATER/FLOWER KINGS-influenced band which claims they're Neo-Prog
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Originally posted by Prog-jester

Originally posted by lazland

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. All "neo prog" is/was is a name given to a bunch of bands who set up in the early 1980's taking their influences from "classic" prog bands. To describe new or modern bands as such is simply ridiculous.


but what about RED SAND, whose sound and manner is 99% MARILLION circa "Misplaced Childhood"?

In which case, they would be a retro or revival bandWink


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It's funny, neo-prog is simultaneously my favourite and least favourite subgenre. I haven't heard many of the 2013 ones, but I really like The Aurora Project's metal/neo hybrid.

I think, like symphonic, it's had its time and it should go, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying new releases. Modern symphonic I just can't handle at all though.
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Originally posted by lazland

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. All "neo prog" is/was is a name given to a bunch of bands who set up in the early 1980's taking their influences from "classic" prog bands. To describe new or modern bands as such is simply ridiculous.

Except for some exceptions (Magenta Seven for example), I tend to agree

Originally posted by lazland

Further, virtually all of those bands who came to prominence at the time no longer make music that sounds anything like it did 30 years ago. Good, neither should it. The best of these bands see progressive rock music not as a box with which to fit in and be constrained, but, rather, as a philosophy, a way of doing things, and, crucially, of doing things differently. To have the freedom to make music that is intelligent and free from record industry manipulation, and pedants pre-conceived bias and perceptions.

This is frightening me, I agree again: LOL

1.- Pendragon ceased to be Neo Prog a few years ago, they are siome sort of Eclectic with Symphonioc and Hard Rock tendencies.

2.- Marillion is no longer Prog at all. (At least IMHO)

3.- Millenium just released Ego, which has more in common wityh Pink Floy and Symphonic rather with the classic Neo sound of the 80's

4.- Lifesigns, Some sort of Neo/Crossover combo

Originally posted by lazland

I would rather not start yet another argument about sub-genres (honestly!), but people really do need to start understanding these matters a bit better.

Third agreement in the day.

I listen bands independently of the genre, but hey, this categorization helps a lot when knowing what are you searching for.

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