A RULE ON THIS SITE HAS BEEN VIOLATED!!!

Congratulations!

Why not turn it the other way round and give all the bands/musicians on PA a little sticker PAA (Prog Archives Aprooved) making them automatically PROG. There will be a small test to see if they are worth and able fitting in. I developped a scientifically based test model. The subject has to have minimum two positive answers :

1. Can you play more then the C-Major scale?

2.Do you  know at least one Zappa song by heart?

3.Do you  possess at least one GG record.(purchase proove before the test date)

4.Are you sexy?

5.Do you believe that Elvis was the King?

6.Can you state one musician who does play in a band for other reasons then to get laid?

7.Do you know the difference between a double-bass and a double-bed?

8.Do you believe that masturbating provokes deafness?

9.Do you own a  Chrome plated megaphone?

10.Have you seen 'Jabberwock'?

Just to end this sequence of posts, I don't know if some of you don't get the difference or don't want to get it:

Robert Fripp said: I don't want to be labeled as Progressive, but he never said King Crimson plays Pop for example.

Yes, Genesis, ELP didn't anounced they were Progresive bands but they never said we play Disco or we play metal, Jazz or Mambo.

Phil Collins hates Prog' we all know he plays plain Pop, so what's new?

Pink Floyd consider themselves as  plain Rock in Pompei DVD, well Prog, Metal, Psychedelic etc are Rock, this is the most generic term, plus the fact that Pompeii was recorded in 1971 when the term Progressive Rock wasn't still well known.

All the previous bands don't want to be labeled into Prog' but they never said they played any particular genre.

Two Opeth members have said loud and clearly: we play Death Metal that's a different story they are announcing and labeling themselves into a determined genre,

Lopez even said all our albums are Death Metal and one is Accoustic, so don't pretend to know more than themselves about what they play.

Iván

Bowzo wrote: Death was mentioned earlier. I consider their album "Symbolic" to be very proggy, like Prog-Death metal.

I also consider Death to be very proggy. "Symbolic" album indeed, but i also think of "The Sound of Perseverance" in a Prog-Death metal orientation.

NetsNJFan wrote: enough guys.... Ivan, all the prog guys in the 70s hate being called prog.  (Fripp [Jerk], Hammill, Gabriel, Ian Amderson, David Gilmour, GG - these guys didnt call themselves prog either)  Doesn't prove anything.

I just read this too. That sums it up.

enough guys.... Ivan, all the prog guys in the 70s hate being called prog.  (Fripp [Jerk], Hammill, Gabriel, Ian Amderson, David Gilmour, GG - these guys didnt call themselves prog either)  Doesn't prove anything.

I agree with that Nets, but that's different, they never said we play oin a determined genre, they only said something like we don't like to be labeled (Fripp said it clearly)

In this case the Opeth members said We are a Death Metal band, like that, specific and clear. I believe it's different.

Iván

Logos wrote:

Yet in other interviews he says his influences include 70's prog and psychedelia, and he has said that Andy Latimer is his biggest influence as a guitarist.

Lets see,

1.- He says in his site My influences are Porcupine Tree and Camel if I'm not wrong and he lists like 20 Metal, Death Metal and Black Metal bands. He never said We are a Prog Metal band.

Genesis is influenced by Bach, but they are not a Baroque Classical Band, ELP is influenced by Bartok, Mussorgski, Cui, Borodin, etc but they are not a Classical Modern band. Opeth composer admits some Prog influence but IMO they are not Prog, I may be wrong but twoi members of the band clearly state they play Death Metal, I don't believe they are wrong.

2.- On the other hand he clearly said:

• In he's website "We are a metal band" (Not Prog, just metal)
• In an interview for a Metal Mgzine he said: I also made the choice to make Opeth into a more death metal band rather than black metal-ish. (No LOgos, he's not only talking about vocals, he clearly said that they were a Black Metal-ish band and they are now a DEATH METAL BAND, if you don't get it ask Mikael for a paper with a Notary signature, because it's clear for everybody except you.
• Martin Lopez said clearly for Absolute Metal, that all his previous albums were DEATH METAL.

So choose where they are mopre specific, show me a quote where Akerfeld or Lopez say We play Prog Metal, if you find it, well we will discover they don't know what they are playing.

Iván