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spectral
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Topic: Vegetarians Posted: August 02 2005 at 11:21 |
Anyone a vegetarian or has been a vegetarian or would like to be a vegetarian or hates vegetarians?
I've been a vegetarian for 3 years now and there is no chance I would go back to eating any kind of meat or fish or seafood. the idea repulses me. especially after watching various programmes on meat and how it is processed or the kind of meat that hits the supermarket. just last week there was a programme highlighting the plight of chickens used in major supermarkets - it was absolutely digusting. I know the poor blighters are destined for our plates anyway, but the conditions they were kept under were horrific, not to mention the drugs that are pumped into them. One of my fears is that we don't truly understand what the future result will be of our actions and that we'll be faced with another BSE type crisis. at least with vegetables, especially organic ones, you can head off some of the problems we associate with meat - although I appreciate not even vegetables are immune to issues relating to food.
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greenback
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 11:35 |
i'm a veggie, and since that time i globally feel better. you have to be careful when you are a veggie: you have to get the 8 essential amino-acids so that your body will have the complete protein intake: so, i eat soy, nuts, peanuts, almonds, sunflower seeds, cashews, pecans, pistachios, yogurt and cheese. the food elements combination is very important too, if you want to optimize your amino-acid intake.
i don't think we need meat: it is just too complicated and not useful.
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The Doctor
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 11:40 |
I figure somethings going to kill me one of these days, so in the meantime I'm going to enjoy my steak, shrimp, chicken, bacon. I do dislike the way they treat the animals destined for the slaughter, but I figure by the time they reach my table the animals are dead already. The various governments should do something though about the way the animals are treated and processed. The two things I won't eat are lobster (boiling something alive is too cruel even for me - of course the fact that it looks like a giant bug doesn't help matters either) and veal.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 11:44 |
I'm a meat eater, I like veg too though!
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 12:19 |
i love meat. mainly steak and seafood. i don't like veggies that much, but i do eat fruit more than any other food.
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 12:54 |
Meat all the way!!!!
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JrKASperov
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 13:01 |
All of the veggies I know are kind to animals, except other humans.
So I'd rather eat meat.
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Humanizzimo
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 13:43 |
I really think is nice to be a Vegetarian...but i cant stop eating meat...i love barbecue
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 13:48 |
I eat anything but moles, but enjoy some fully vegetarian dishes alot! Many times in public cantines (schools, offices etc.) I tend to pick non-meat meals, as they are often IMO little more difficult to ruin than meat or fish.
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Hangedman
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 14:06 |
I am against the way animals are treated but luckally there are some shops in rural areas that sell only local meats, which treat their livestock properly so im lucky that way. During the summer I only eat meat when a guest at other peoples houses or serving food to guests. For some reason I hate eating meat when its really hot out.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 14:10 |
Been veggie for five years. It's not a moral thing - I just feel
uncomfortable with eating meat. Those who don't are welcome to carry on
doing so.
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spectral
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 14:11 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Been veggie for five years. It's not a moral thing - I just feel uncomfortable with eating meat. Those who don't are welcome to carry on doing so. |
, my sentiments exactly.
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The Hemulen
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Tony R
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 14:53 |
greenback wrote:
i'm a veggie, and since that time i globally feel better. you have to be careful when you are a veggie: you have to get the 8 essential amino-acids so that your body will have the complete protein intake: so, i eat soy, nuts, peanuts, almonds, sunflower seeds, cashews, pecans, pistachios, yogurt and cheese. the food elements combination is very important too, if you want to optimize your amino-acid intake.
i don't think we need meat: it is just too complicated and not useful.
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It seems to me,Greenback,that your post is proof that we NEED to eat meat.Our bodies need (vitamin B4> EDIT:) Vitamin B12,(not B4) and if you dont eat meat the only way to get is by taking a supplement.Those 8 essential amino acids can all be found in a nice juicy steak,who wants to piss about reading labels on veg/nuts and seeds trying to get enough nutrients?
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spectral
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 14:58 |
Tony R wrote:
greenback wrote:
i'm a veggie, and since that time i globally feel better. you have to be careful when you are a veggie: you have to get the 8 essential amino-acids so that your body will have the complete protein intake: so, i eat soy, nuts, peanuts, almonds, sunflower seeds, cashews, pecans, pistachios, yogurt and cheese. the food elements combination is very important too, if you want to optimize your amino-acid intake.
i don't think we need meat: it is just too complicated and not useful.
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It seems to me,Greenback,that your post is proof that we NEED to eat meat.Our bodies need vitamin B4 and if you dont eat meat the only way to get is by taking a supplement.Those 8 essential amino acids can all be found in a nice juicy steak,who wants to piss about reading labels on veg/nuts and seeds trying to get enough nutrients?
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Sorry Tony, but you're talking rubbish. Vitamin B4 is also found in in many green vegetables, pulses, yeast, and mushrooms.
As for checking the labels, it's actually made me more conscious of what I eat, as I am forced to read labels to check what I am eating.
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Tony R
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 15:07 |
spectral wrote:
Tony R wrote:
greenback wrote:
i'm a veggie, and since that time i globally feel better. you have to be careful when you are a veggie: you have to get the 8 essential amino-acids so that your body will have the complete protein intake: so, i eat soy, nuts, peanuts, almonds, sunflower seeds, cashews, pecans, pistachios, yogurt and cheese. the food elements combination is very important too, if you want to optimize your amino-acid intake.
i don't think we need meat: it is just too complicated and not useful.
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It seems to me,Greenback,that your post is proof that we NEED to eat meat.Our bodies need vitamin B4 and if you dont eat meat the only way to get is by taking a supplement.Those 8 essential amino acids can all be found in a nice juicy steak,who wants to piss about reading labels on veg/nuts and seeds trying to get enough nutrients?
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Sorry Tony, but you're talking rubbish. Vitamin B4 is also found in in many green vegetables, pulses, yeast, and mushrooms.
As for checking the labels, it's actually made me more conscious of what I eat, as I am forced to read labels to check what I am eating.
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Sorry,you are right. I meant Vitamin B12. Vitamin B4 is now believed not to even exist as a Vitamin.
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spectral
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 15:12 |
Tony R wrote:
spectral wrote:
Tony R wrote:
greenback wrote:
i'm a veggie, and since that time i globally feel better. you have to be careful when you are a veggie: you have to get the 8 essential amino-acids so that your body will have the complete protein intake: so, i eat soy, nuts, peanuts, almonds, sunflower seeds, cashews, pecans, pistachios, yogurt and cheese. the food elements combination is very important too, if you want to optimize your amino-acid intake.
i don't think we need meat: it is just too complicated and not useful.
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It seems to me,Greenback,that your post is proof that we NEED to eat meat.Our bodies need vitamin B4 and if you dont eat meat the only way to get is by taking a supplement.Those 8 essential amino acids can all be found in a nice juicy steak,who wants to piss about reading labels on veg/nuts and seeds trying to get enough nutrients?
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Sorry Tony, but you're talking rubbish. Vitamin B4 is also found in in many green vegetables, pulses, yeast, and mushrooms.
As for checking the labels, it's actually made me more conscious of what I eat, as I am forced to read labels to check what I am eating.
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Sorry,you are right. I meant Vitamin B12. Vitamin B4 is now believed not to even exist as a Vitamin.
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It is essentially an acid (folic acid/adenine). B12 can be found meat, dairy products and eggs.
You have hit on an interesting point though; as a vegetarian you have to give more consideration to what you eat - but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 15:23 |
i don't eat anything that has a shadow...... I was actually a vegetarian for 9 months, now im an uber-carnivor
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 15:57 |
Well I don't eat meat becouse I just don't lke the taste of it... But fish like hadock are great...
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