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    Posted: August 04 2013 at 11:19
My bet is that Tom Bombaldil is a Timelord.

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Personally, I think it is possible that Bombadil is a bit of a writer's cock-up and the Ents (specifically Treeebeard) are the (plot) remedy - both can be seen as versions of The Green Man to some extent. In fantasy fiction you cannot have the good guys more powerful than the bad guys they have to overcome (or there is no threat of peril in the endeavour) - Saruman would have been no match for Bombadil so the Ents were created for the attack on Isengard and in the story Bombadil is sidelined.
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Haven't read LOTR in many many years......but from what I read on the wiki link it sounds like Tolkien crossed the Green Man with Tom O' Bedlam and came up with his Tom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Bombadil

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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

The Ent language is one of the most interesting things in the book, I think.


I agree.  Along with their whole culture.
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I agree with what the OP said.  Or if he's not an embodiment of Arda that he's the main "piece" of it as an organism.  Like the heart of Arda that has been there as long as it's existed and will die when it dies.
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

@Epignosis : Why don't write your own Lord of the Rings Book. All the comments I read from you about it seems to be negative.
I adore The Lord of the Rings.And I am writing a fantasy series, but it won't have linguistic tangents that take 30+ pages to get through.

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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Me or Tolkien?  LOL


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Ha!  My chapters for this series average 1500 words.  Wink


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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Me or Tolkien?  LOL


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Ha!  My chapters for this series average 1500 words.  Wink
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Me or Tolkien?  LOL


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Me or Tolkien?  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote thellama73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2013 at 17:16
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

it won't have linguistic tangents that take 30+ pages to get through.


But like most politicians, he promised more than he could deliver.
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

@Epignosis : Why don't write your own Lord of the Rings Book. All the comments I read from you about it seems to be negative.


I adore The Lord of the Rings.

And I am writing a fantasy series, but it won't have linguistic tangents that take 30+ pages to get through.


Edited by Epignosis - August 03 2013 at 17:13
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Does he have to like the book?
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@Epignosis : Why don't write your own Lord of the Rings Book. All the comments I read from you about it seems to be negative.
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:


That's fine, but don't bore me.


Too late. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2013 at 22:27
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

The Ent language is one of the most interesting things in the book, I think.


That's fine, but when you're knee deep in orc blood, you don't want 30 pages of a linguistics lesson.

Or a philosophy course.  Isn't that right, Ayn Rand?



I do! It's why I love Victor Hugo's lengthy digressions on the Paris sewers or the history of the octopus.


Explains why you like Moby Dick then.  Dead


Indeed. I'm of the opinion that plot is only one feature of many that are important for great literature.


That's fine, but don't bore me.
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

The Ent language is one of the most interesting things in the book, I think.


That's fine, but when you're knee deep in orc blood, you don't want 30 pages of a linguistics lesson.

Or a philosophy course.  Isn't that right, Ayn Rand?



I do! It's why I love Victor Hugo's lengthy digressions on the Paris sewers or the history of the octopus.


Explains why you like Moby Dick then.  Dead


Indeed. I'm of the opinion that plot is only one feature of many that are important for great literature.
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

The Ent language is one of the most interesting things in the book, I think.


That's fine, but when you're knee deep in orc blood, you don't want 30 pages of a linguistics lesson.

Or a philosophy course.  Isn't that right, Ayn Rand?



I do! It's why I love Victor Hugo's lengthy digressions on the Paris sewers or the history of the octopus.


Explains why you like Moby Dick then.  Dead
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