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    Posted: November 29 2013 at 21:11
Oh I didn't ignore it, it was just such a cordial, proper English slaying that there wasn't much to say.   Consider yourself lucky it was so clearcut.   The JFK case is mostly a torturous, dark infatuation that only gets more confused and bizarre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2013 at 20:31
I wouldn't call Liam and Noel Gallagher a painfully British in-joke - remove the "in" and you're closer to the mark.


Obsessed is too strong a word, curiously interested would a better description. For many Brits the Kennedy era epitomised the America that we aspired to, that aspiration ended abruptly in 1963. I don't think many Brits give much credence to the multitude of conspiracy theories, as I implied in my post on Spencer Perceval (that everyone politely ignored), we have no need for alternative explanations.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2013 at 20:00
Ah just what this thread needed, a burst of painfully British in-jokes.    I hear tell the English are almost as obsessed with the JFK case as we are.   Still true?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2013 at 07:52
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

...that was an arsy Noel...


And behind the arsey Noel...



A dodgy untrustworthy type

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2013 at 07:40
...that was an arsy Noel...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2013 at 07:19
That's not a grassy knoll you can see, it's Dean's beard... Bob's not been around for a while, I notice

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2013 at 06:52
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^Now, did you kill the thread yourself or was there a second Admin hidden somewhere who actually executed the final deletion? Tongue



It was me alone! There's a grainy 8mm film to prove it.

It was the magic deletion...
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I'm not convinced. I've seen the grainy film and it looks like there's a guy in the background holding a delete button.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2013 at 20:15
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone....it was a great day of food and family here....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2013 at 17:07
Happy Thanksgiving, and thank you to all who participated in this thread.   Good discourse.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2013 at 16:21
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^Now, did you kill the thread yourself or was there a second Admin hidden somewhere who actually executed the final deletion? Tongue



It was me alone! There's a grainy 8mm film to prove it.

It was the magic deletion...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2013 at 13:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:48
^Now, did you kill the thread yourself or was there a second Admin hidden somewhere who actually executed the final deletion? Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:28
A PM would have been better than discussing this in a completely unrelated thread methinks - unless there was a conspiracy

For the record, I closed the thread as there was no discussion about the interview itself, just a string of opinions (mine included) about the man himself. I took the view very few, if any, members would be interested in discussing an interview with him & it would merely descend into a hate-fest - if I'm wrong in that assertion, mea culpa.

Now - back to conspiracy theories

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2013 at 10:56
^Manson's very existence is objectionable but as far as the thread goes I agree. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2013 at 09:19
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It has nothing to do with it being 'okay' or not, don't be paranoid.   It simply seemed to run its course and a judgment call was made to close it.  

If you want to complain about it, post in a Site Discussion thread.




Paranoid...? Nope...just think it's silly to close threads that adults are discussing when there;s nothing particularly objectionable about the thread.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2013 at 00:21
It has nothing to do with it being 'okay' or not, don't be paranoid.   It simply seemed to run its course and a judgment call was made to close it.  

If you want to complain about it, post in a Site Discussion thread.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2013 at 22:53
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Having just read it, it makes perfect sense it was closed--  the consensus seemed clear, what more is there to say   The likely outcome would be a dark discussion about why Charlie was such a mean guy.

'nuff said about it in this thread, me thinks.


Uhh...so then it's ok to discuss a murder of a President and the nutter who did it but not Manson...?
So if someone wanted to start a serial killer thread about the psychology and personalities involved that thread would be off limits also..?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2013 at 22:05
Having just read it, it makes perfect sense it was closed--  the consensus seemed clear, what more is there to say   The likely outcome would be a dark discussion about why Charlie was such a mean guy.

'nuff said about it in this thread, me thinks.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2013 at 21:56
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

BTW.....does anyone know why Jim closed the Charles Manson thread...?
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I don't understand it either. I guess we are not adult enough to talk about someone so idiotic as Manson.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2013 at 20:47
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

what's your take on why Ruby went after Oswald? At that point it wasn't even clear if Oswald had indeed shot Kennedy. So why would a small time hood throw his life away and shoot him in front of the whole world? Was he some kind of Kennedy freak or was there more going on there? And then he goes to jail and eventually dies from cancer and never says much about it all.
A conspiracy minded person would think he was getting rid of Oswald (a loose end...)so the whole case would be blamed on the patsy and since he was dying from cancer anyway it didn't matter to him.  Did Ruby do this for some one else...like the Mob..?

It is a mystery and yet, at that time, it seemed to somehow make sense.   The whole country was angry, sad and outraged.   The climate in Texas was reactionary and often violent.   Here was a ganster from the east coast who'd been running numbers, guns, and ladies his whole life, finally wound up being the "man to see" in Dallas if you wanted to conduct some action, and ends up gunning down LHO in a police basement no one other than cops should've been in (had the DPD gotten Oswald into a car and away, he might've been much safer from that point on), and ruining his life by being the man who killed our only chance to hear from the accused and see justice done, instead of becoming the hero he thought he'd be.   That is assuming he wasn't put up to it.  

Personally I'm convinced ~ as convinced as one can be in this case ~ that Ruby and Oswald not only knew each other but were actively involved in local Dallas crime.   Whether Lee Oswald was some sort of Federal informer or provocateur does not negate the probability that these two were hanging out and up to all sorts of sticky business.





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