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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 14:38
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

I'm just going to leave now k

JUST SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP WITH ALL THESE NEGATIVE VIBES
ALL THIS YELLING
JUST SHUT UP

My dear fellow, stop shouting, go away from the computer, and calm down a bit before you come back. Otherwise, rightly, you will be banned.

My son is twelve year's old. He has great difficulty in achieving a balance between expressing intelligent opinion and pissing people off. It is my job as his father to try to point him in the right direction, especially in the social interaction discipline of life.

So it is with you. Your comments regarding Obama (and it does not matter a damn whether you are Democrat, Republican, Socialist, Trotskyist, Monster Raving Loonyist......) crossed the line between intelligent debate and nastiness.

Refrain from the latter. It will serve you well in later live.

And if that sounds patronising from a middle aged so and so, it was meant to be, but for the right reasons.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 14:41
Oswald did claim he was a patsy, but that may have just been obfuscating words.

I don't believe the lone gunman theory.  However I've not read much about the JFK Assassination so I cannot really comment.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 14:44
David, was the wound on Connally sufficiently analysed?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 14:49
Amusing detour taken by this thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 14:55
Aye, it was most amusing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 14:58
I'm trying to get it back on track...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 15:05
Originally posted by VanderGraafKommandöh VanderGraafKommandöh wrote:

David, was the wound on Connally sufficiently analysed?
There is an old thread on this subject where (I think) David talked about the Governors wounds.


/edit: close, it was GaryB who mentioned the wound: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82736&PID=4582745#4582745 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 15:21
Cheers, Dean.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 17:06
In short:

There was no magic bullet. Connolly was sitting a little to the left and below JFK. There was a perfect straight path to the bullet. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 20:06
 ^ Correct, nothing magic about it.   And thanks, Dean, for the reference back to that old thread.

James:   Connally's wounds [he had a total of about five, as the bullet passed through his chest, wrist, and stopped in his thigh] were reasonably analyzed right after the shooting in Dallas at the same hospital JFK was taken to.   There is little doubt one bullet hit him from the upper rear after traveling through the President.   We're told that bullet, the famous "magic" one, was found on his stretcher at the Dallas hospital.   Much has been made as to how it got there, and that Jack Ruby ~ who we know was at Parkland when this was all happening based on several very credible witnesses (who were never called to testify) ~ may have planted it.   This is pure speculation, though it is odd Ruby would be racing around Dallas, first at Dealy Plaza "to see the fireworks" as a friend reported, and then 20 minutes later at Parkland.   What was he doing there?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 21:58
One mustn't forget that both C.S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley died on the same day as John Fitzgerald Kennedy.  Much like Mother Theresa died the same day as Lady Diana.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 22:55
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I wouldn't pick on him, he's only thirteen years old, he know four-fifths of f___ all about anything. 
Yet another example why kids should not be allowed on this web site...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 23:00
Originally posted by VanderGraafKommandöh VanderGraafKommandöh wrote:

One mustn't forget that both C.S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley died on the same day as John Fitzgerald Kennedy.  Much like Mother Theresa died the same day as Lady Diana.

The percentage of coverage given to each of the three died in 11/22/63 was much closer to accurate in terms of life merits than to the two died in the later date.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2013 at 00:00
Indeed.  Far too much coverage was given to Lady Di.  But I won't mention that again. Wink

It's unfortunate that J.F.K. died that day as I'd say the death of Huxley and Lewis were great losses too.  They obviously died natural deaths.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2013 at 00:26
 
 
 
President of the country where I was born - Marshal Tito of Yugoslavia, and JFK. They were both great politicians and that was THE politics!
 
 
 
EDIT:  The lovers of plot theories documentaries would to see this film when it come out:
 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2013 at 02:55
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I wouldn't pick on him, he's only thirteen years old, he know four-fifths of f___ all about anything. 


Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I wouldn't pick on him

 
Yeah, I picked up on that too straight away. LOL 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2013 at 03:07
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I wouldn't pick on him, he's only thirteen years old, he know four-fifths of f___ all about anything. 


Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I wouldn't pick on him 

 
Yeah, I picked up on that too straight away. LOL 
Irony and sarcasm ... it's a git to get the balance right. I need more numpties to practice on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2013 at 06:33
Channel 5 in the UK last week aired a documentary whose particpants claimed that after the first shot was fired a secret service agent sitting next to JFK in the car sprang to his feet, grabbed his rifle intending to protect the president and when turning round accidentally pulled the trigger and blew his brains out. There then followed a 'conspiracy' to keep this quiet, which explained all the irregularitites in procedure around thr autopsy, and the rush to get the body out of Texas and back to D.C. Apparently it's law in Texas that a body cannot leave the state until the autopsy is complete.

I don't know if these claims are any more or less believable than Oswald acted alone, or there was a 'triangulation of crossfire' invloving gunmen on the grassy knoll, and the Cubans/CIA organised it all etc etc etc. I know Kennedy pissed off a lot of people with his anti war rhetoric, disgust at state secrecy and mistrust of the Federal Reserve. You can take your pick really. I guess we will never know and if there was some dubious conspiracy it will not see the light of day until all players have died off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2013 at 06:41
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

What I find to be more mysterious is why Jack Ruby killed Oswald and who pulled Jack Ruby's strings?


Is there evidence to suggest someone was pulling Ruby's strings??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2013 at 07:47
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Channel 5 in the UK last week aired a documentary whose particpants claimed that after the first shot was fired a secret service agent sitting next to JFK in the car sprang to his feet, grabbed his rifle intending to protect the president and when turning round accidentally pulled the trigger and blew his brains out. There then followed a 'conspiracy' to keep this quiet, which explained all the irregularitites in procedure around thr autopsy, and the rush to get the body out of Texas and back to D.C. Apparently it's law in Texas that a body cannot leave the state until the autopsy is complete.
 

There's some videos on YouTube about this, some people believe that the driver turned round and shot Kennedy and you can see the "gun" in the Zapruder video. This "gun" turns out to be light reflecting off the head of the other front seat passenger.
When I started this post, I was going to say that it couldn't have been someone sitting next to JFK (actually only his wife was anyway)  and it couldn't have been someone in the front of the car as JFK clearly slumped forward after the head shot, however after watching the video again, he clearly slumps BACKWARDS just after the bullet hits (at 0:57 in this video


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