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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Hey Sam can you share the deadwax info on that Camel also spine record number......I see that one and not sure which is best sounding.
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It's this one: https://www.discogs.com/Camel-Camel/release/3049656
I think all the information is there.

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Originally posted by TeleStrat TeleStrat wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by TeleStrat TeleStrat wrote:

^  In my small group of album collector friends it was assumed that an import pressing would be better than a US pressing.

Pretty much anything I have that is pressed in UK ie Optimal GmbH, Pallas, GZ is very good quality, surface noise is pretty low to zero, QC is very good. Don't confuse pressing with mixing....Plenty very well pressed albums are the sh^t for SQ due to bad mixing.



I'm talking about the quality of the vinyl. In the mid to later 70s some labels were into mass production and when that happens sometimes the quality goes down. I have some albums that are thinner (which sometimes leads to slight warping) and the edges are rough rather than ground smooth. When the physical quality is poor it can also effect the sound no matter how well it was recorded in the studio.
I have some UK pressings that are high quality and also some German pressings that are exceptional quality.

Yup I agree......my screw on clamp corrects any warp, for the most part everything plays flat for me.


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by TeleStrat TeleStrat wrote:

^  In my small group of album collector friends it was assumed that an import pressing would be better than a US pressing.

Pretty much anything I have that is pressed in UK ie Optimal GmbH, Pallas, GZ is very good quality, surface noise is pretty low to zero, QC is very good. Don't confuse pressing with mixing....Plenty very well pressed albums are the sh^t for SQ due to bad mixing.



I'm talking about the quality of the vinyl. In the mid to later 70s some labels were into mass production and when that happens sometimes the quality goes down. I have some albums that are thinner (which sometimes leads to slight warping) and the edges are rough rather than ground smooth. When the physical quality is poor it can also effect the sound no matter how well it was recorded in the studio.
I have some UK pressings that are high quality and also some German pressings that are exceptional quality.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Hey Sam can you share the deadwax info on that Camel also spine record number......I see that one and not sure which is best sounding.
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It's this one: https://www.discogs.com/Camel-Camel/release/3049656
I think all the information is there.
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Hey Sam can you share the deadwax info on that Camel also spine record number......I see that one and not sure which is best sounding.
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Originally posted by TeleStrat TeleStrat wrote:

^  In my small group of album collector friends it was assumed that an import pressing would be better than a US pressing.

Pretty much anything I have that is pressed in UK ie Optimal GmbH, Pallas, GZ is very good quality, surface noise is pretty low to zero, QC is very good. Don't confuse pressing with mixing....Plenty very well pressed albums are the sh^t for SQ due to bad mixing.




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One of the records I was looking for the most since it's one of my favourite Camel albums and because this edition was recommended to me as the best sounding one, even more than the first pressing. I don't have the first pressing to compare but this 80's German reissue (in mint condition Wink) has a really clear sound, especially the vocals and acoustic guitar, but very powerful too. It's just amazing Clap


So good to finally have some PFM in my collection and it's a really good reissue too. It's too bad they didn't reissued Per Un Amico, although I think I'm crazy enough for that album to buy a first pressing Tongue
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^  In my small group of album collector friends it was assumed that an import pressing would be better than a US pressing.
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Interesting Smile

Well I guess it's part of the collection to keep various covers of the same album, I wonder as well about the quality of the pressing, I didn't listen to the US pressing yet but I'll compare, the UK pressing sounds great by the way Wink
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Originally posted by Anaon Anaon wrote:

It's weird how covers can change... Anyone know why?

I think it is licensing agreements, between say publisher in the UK vs the one in the US, they can't use the same images, without paying big time money, so it's cheaper to create a different cover image.

Keep both, probably different sounding as the pressing plants are different I am sure. It was well known in the late 60's that some UK mixes and pressings were bass thin, for some reason UK engineers pulled the bass down on mixing. I think it was Jimmy Page who brought this up in some documentary I saw, it's why early LZ albums feature Bonham with big drum sounds, Page wanted the "US" bass mix.


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^^^  There's no reason not to keep both. I have both import and domestic copies of a few albums. 
Sometimes the cover is different and sometimes it's the same.
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It's weird how covers can change... Anyone know why?
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^^ I think it's the third time I came across a vinyl copy of it, but only got it now.

^ That's cool, even the angle of the frame is different Tongue My Portuguese pressing has the US cover with a darker printing (there are no details in the furniture) and image was cut around, so the hand looks bigger. I would keep both.
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Now spinning... First time I notice hands are different on these covers (UK pressing on the left and US pressing on the right). The US pressing is mint. Which one to keep?

Do you keep mint copies over original not so mint pressings? Do you keep both?



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^ Platinum I have a digital copy Dead.....Never seen a vinyl version. I don't pay attention to ratings here or anywhere.


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Originally posted by TeleStrat TeleStrat wrote:

^  Excellent haul, Sam.  Thumbs Up
Thanks Gary Smile I'm especially happy to have Camel's debut (that's how I found the seller in the first place) and more classic RPI albums. The Astral Son and QVL are coloured by the way Wink

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Nice copy of The Nice....I found a used copy of that about a month ago at a used store that sold antiques. It was beat up with no sleeve and the dumb store owner was asking $15 for it. I told her there was no way I would play that on my table especially for $15....she looked at me like I was from Mars.
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I have a similar story, an antique store owner was trying to sell me a copy of Ashes Are Burning in terrible condition and the cover was all scribbled for the modest amount of 20€... I'm not sure if he was an idiot or a crook LOL I actually got that Nice LP for free Thumbs Up

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^^^ Outstanding Sam......That Traffic is excellent! And so is Platinum......

Sadly, I will be spinning a lot of Earth, Wind & Fire this weekend....With the passing of Maurice White this will be my mourning weekend of music Cry. An amazing musical mind, a genius at his craft.....
I started listening to Traffic a couple of years ago but never saw any copy of their albums. You also like Platinum? Shocked It has such a low rating here but I really enjoy it, it's a lot of fun Clap

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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Anaon Anaon wrote:

Yes I am Handshake 
Wow ! Your tunes sound great - any thoughts of vinyl pressings (nudge nudge, wink wink) .......

Hey thank you! I truly appreciate! Wink
Vinyl pressings of my albums? Well... I would love to release something in vinyl of course but it would only be for the visual aesthetic, it would not add anything sonically as I record "in the box", digitally unfortunately. I guess I could do a special mastering for vinyl like many artists do these days but I admit my knowledge is very limited about it...
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^^^ Outstanding Sam......That Traffic is excellent! And so is Platinum......

Sadly, I will be spinning a lot of Earth, Wind & Fire this weekend....With the passing of Maurice White this will be my mourning weekend of music Cry. An amazing musical mind, a genius at his craft.....


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Meltdowner,
Nice copy of The Nice....I found a used copy of that about a month ago at a used store that sold antiques. It was beat up with no sleeve and the dumb store owner was asking $15 for it. I told her there was no way I would play that on my table especially for $15....she looked at me like I was from Mars.
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Originally posted by Anaon Anaon wrote:

Yes I am Handshake 
Wow ! Your tunes sound great - any thoughts of vinyl pressings (nudge nudge, wink wink) .......
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