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    Posted: 15 hours 17 minutes ago at 18:28
I don't think it is ranting....This whole website is SUBJECTIVE. You think it is 5stars, he thinks it is 1star, and everything in between....Everything is fair game in my book.

For me Aqualung is the best JT ever recorded....TAAB is probably next...But again in music what is "better"?

And also, there are no leaders in PA, only ones that think they are the leaders! LOL
      
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Friend of mine in New Orleans just sent me this video of the W hotel in French Quarter....let me know what you see.



I don't know .. a quadruple-plinth, three-motor Rega with a carbon fiber arm?

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

^ You're not the only one get's bored by TAAB, I think Aqualung is much better.

Too much of early Genesis can also be quite challenging to sit through :)

Feels so good to rant against the dear leaders of the PA Top 10 LOL




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^ You're not the only one get's bored by TAAB, I think Aqualung is much better.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 hours 24 minutes ago at 17:21
I don't have any problem with The Incident, its a concept album and you have to listen to it in that way...
      
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^^ exactly and exactly

Not to upset anybody, but TAAB gets boring even on vinyl Wacko

I know that The Incident is not the most popular PT album, but it's exceptionally well made and turned out to be very even as far as quality ..  there is nothing on it I actively dislike, which is a huge plus.  
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Friend of mine in New Orleans just sent me this video of the W hotel in French Quarter....let me know what you see.


      
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With the CD versions of The Incident and Topographic....I agree, I can easily start ignoring the music and details...Even with CDs like TAAB and Tubular Bells, one loooooong song can get boring.

With my vinyl versions I am much more engaged, I have to get up every 22min or so and flip, so my brain stays focused and my experience is much more enjoyable.

Although I am more apt to listen to LP1 of Topographic only, its a wonderful album but the lyrics are just way to out there to keep me interested. I read the lyric sheet all the time and find my mind wandering, thinking how many bowls of hash these guys smoked to come up with this stuff!! LOL
      
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^ I listen to FOABP much more easily than 'The Incident': it's lenghtier and less interesting.

I usually listen to double LP's while I'm doing something: I was at work the last time I listened to Topographic, The Lamb and Zeit Tongue

I think my brain works like that too, I experienced those the last time I listened to Relayer, I seem to only really like Sound Chaser from this album.
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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

^ That's why I don't listen to recent prog much. At least in the 70's they had to choose the best material and not stretch the songs much to fit on the LP, unless we're talking about double LP's: I don't think there's any of those that I really like Ermm

Jokes aside, excessively long albums may well be one of the overlooked reasons why newer prog albums haven't ever made it into the Top 20. Remarkably, the only CD-era album in the Top 20 is Hybris, which happens to be 45 minutes long. 

I love FOABP, but listening to it in its entirety is work, not fun. I usually play Side B, followed by Side D .. about 50 minutes in total :)

(if listening to the FOABP is work, then wading through the Topographic Oceans is forced labor)

There is such thing as attention span. When a certain time mark is reached, your brain either (1) Starts ignoring sensory inputs, or (2) Forces itself to continue, triggering the "imminent overload" alarm. Chances are you'll remember the album as boring, tedious and irritating. 
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^ That's why I don't listen to recent prog much. At least in the 70's they had to choose the best material and not stretch the songs much to fit on the LP, unless we're talking about double LP's: I don't think there's any of those that I really like Ermm
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^ I have already written this somewhere: almost all Top 20 albums on PA are between 40 and 50 minutes long. None is even close to 60 minutes, and only one is shorter than 40. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Meltdowner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2014 at 17:51
Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

 
Vinyl....it was cut back to just 1LP

Which corroborates the notion that an album doesn't have to be 60+ minutes long to feel whole and complete. 
I also don't like much albums with more than one hour, but PF is the exception for me Wink

Also, when I know very well the full version I hate shorter versions, like when I listen to the version of 'Shine On' from 'Echoes', I really miss that third guitar solo Tongue
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The original 1994 vinyl issue, songs were shortened to make it a 1-LP issue....the 2014 remix/remaster includes the full length songs so hence it is a 2-LP issue. I believe these songs were shortened compared to the CD issue: Poles Apart, Marooned, Wearing the Inside Out, Coming Back to Life, Lost for Words, and High Hopes. Just High Hopes is almost 2 minutes longer on the 2014 edition.
      
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Argonaught Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2014 at 17:28
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

 
Vinyl....it was cut back to just 1LP

Which corroborates the notion that an album doesn't have to be 60+ minutes long to feel whole and complete. 
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^ Isn't the album too short for a double LP? I was just seeing the differences in the original LP and they cut my favourite tracks. That's cruel Tongue
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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

^ I love that album! When you say extended version, it's compared with the original vinyl or the CD?
 
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^ I love that album! When you say extended version, it's compared with the original vinyl or the CD?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2014 at 11:35
Had a wonderful session last night with this one
 
 
I was really enjoying it...They really hit this one out of the park as far as sound quality, detail of the production, the mix is outstanding. Its such a joy to hear the extended version of these songs on vinyl, I also spun my original vinyl copy and for sure there is a big difference in sound quality.
 
It was a good night last night.......
      
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Argonaught Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2014 at 17:14
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I think Argo was kidding with respect to his pressing in your basement....

I was, but sometimes people do find unexpected things in their basements Confused 
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This guy does a nice job with his vinyl to his ADC recorded to 24/96. To hear the full resolution you need a DAC that can handle 24/96, which most can.
You get a very good idea of what a well thought out analog rig can do with vinyl
 
 
 
      
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