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Catcher10
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Posted: April 25 2024 at 12:25 |
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Catcher10
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Extremely happy to have this seminal recording by Sonny Rollins from BlueNote Records as a TonePoet version. The first ever live recording at the Village Vanguard in NYC in 1957 as well Sonny's first live record.
The interesting bit on this recording is Rudy Van Gelder recorded at 7.5ips due to this being a live session, he did not bring his traditional studio deck that could record at 15ips, physically not possible. He then went back to his studio and transferred the session to 15ips tape and this is what was always used to create the original LP release and subsequent CDs and other LP issues. Until this one, which is cut from the original 7.5ips master tapes, the only time these were played before was the original transfer. Comparing to a CD version I have, this version has so much presence and additional detail/resolution the soundstage is so real its kinda spooky. Kevin Gray cut the lacquers, all analog no EQ or compression added to Rudy's original recording. The included booklet is great too with tons of info, photos and an interview of Sonny Rollins by Don Was from last year.
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King of Loss
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Who else went to RSD? And what did you get?
I got the Yes live record, plus the Steven Wilson remix and a few metal records. Otherwise it was a good day for records!
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richardh
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^ The deluxe release of Pictures is one of the best ever. Love that live version of Knife Edge but the whole of that Lyceum gig was ELP at their best.
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JD
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Obviously not vinyl, and I rarely buy CD's, but... $8 ea. except ELP $22 |
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Catcher10
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I've spun it several times, your correct it sounds amazing. The lacquer cutter is Jasper who has cut some other recent prog releases, he cut PT-C/C Live which is pretty darn nice sounding for a live recording. |
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King of Loss
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I have the new 20th Anniversary Opeth record. Sounds quite amazing!
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$10 CND ea. So far, Santana - S/T 1974 Reissue has Play Graded as NM (+)/ VG+cvr |
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Couple adds to the collection today....Shopping at Hi-Voltage in Tacoma. Opeth is new 20th Anniversary release. The others are OG in NM condition.......
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Welcome!!! Those are some nice buys.....
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Nice....I have the Gryphon and PG Live. All the PG live albums sound fantastic.
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Pickups during my holiday in Spain.
I like to get at least a couple Spanish albums, because foreign artist LP's seem to be pretty rare where I shop in the UK (I've found one Banco, and even that's the English language one). Triana and El Mago De Oz were both new. The Zeppelin and Unanimated albums were also new, because the Zep was cheaper than I've seen it in the UK and the Unanimated album was only a tenner, so worst case I'll give it to my brother if it doesn't tickle my fancy. The rest were at a few stores I've visited previously, bar the BS&T album which was on market stall. Edited by Sebastianmoto - April 01 2024 at 11:57 |
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Made a run into Toronto on Sunday to sell a guy a guitar. Took the money and headed to 'Rotate This' record store. I'd rate the store 5/10 for both content and staff service. But I did find these. Edited by JD - April 01 2024 at 06:45 |
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Catcher10
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I've heard/read that comparison before as well......I'd add that its a sterile representation, digital that is.
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mrawjm
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I think the comparisons between vinyl and CD (or other digital formats) are similar to the comparisons between analog and digital photography.
Digital photography can be very precise and high definition. But analog photography has genuine dimension because it is a physical medium capturing the actual effect of light. When you look at an analog photograph, you're looking into it. It feels like you can jump through into its world. You can feel it. Digital photography, no matter how precise in accuracy and colour, etc., is flat. It is a flat image. We can sense its dimension because our human brains have learned to recognise it as an image of a real thing. Although not exactly comparable, vinyl (I'm talking vinyl where the original recording was also analog) gives a more natural, airy sound that is easily recognisable to the ear/brain as sound being produced by instruments.
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My record collection: https://www.discogs.com/user/awjm/collection?sort=median&sort_order=desc
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Most if not all new vinyl releases are cut from 24bit or 32bit files, those are better than CD quality. So you would have to buy Hi-Res files that run almost as much as records, then you have to have a super-dooper DAC to play them. The CD is a down-sampled version of these 24bit masters because of redbook restrictions. When they cut a lacquer from 24/32 bit digital there is no down-sampling needed, I have tons of records cut from digital that sound fantastic, much better than the CD version. For example all Porcupine Tree records sound light years better than the CD versions........That being said I would prefer AAA records.
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As I've heard it over many years and comparing hundreds of all-analog and digital copies, all-analog productions are in general much more detailed than CDs, especially in the high frequences and with much musical data.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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richardh
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Yep the vinyl edition I have of ELP - Brain Salad Surgery is very poor, the Sony CD reissue beats it into a cocked hat.
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JD
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It absolutely kills me when they advertise vinyl releases with big HypeStickers "CUT FROM 24 BIT/96KHZ FILES". Ok...so maybe I'll just buy the CD then.
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I’m very proud of my vinyl collection. 50 years of collecting NM copies of everything I’ve loved over the years. Nice cabinets to store them in. A decent system to play them on. It’s a great hobby, but I buy CDs regularly as well. As for sound, I believe that it’s vinyls lack of digital precision that makes it sound warmer and fills room with an imperfect sound that I know and love from my youth, like a concert. But I don’t diss the perfection of CD quality. I try to stay away from vinyl re-issues that were just copied from a CD. But it’s hard to determine that. My best example of poor re-issued vinyl would be Hawkwind 180 gram re-issues I bought. The original vinyl outclasses the re-issues noticeably. I’d go as far as to say the reissues I bought are garbage with nice packaging.
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