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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Here's a curious thing : a little while back I acquired MOTORPSYCHO's Behind The Sun. Side 1 is quite a novelty - a) there's no tracklist as such, b) it has a groove, c) plonk the arm down and there's a tune. Wow, you might say. Then play the side again, and VOILA !! A different tune gets played . This freaked me out. I don't know how theys did it, but theys did it

That's a dbl groove record, can only be done on vinyl, can't do it on the plastic silver drink coasters...Big smile
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Tom, did you end up getting the LP of Haken's `Restoration'? It was a 30 plus minute EP comprised of remakes of earlier pieces/demos, etc, and I thought it was much better than `The Mountain' (half as long and much more engaging without bottoming out at the half-way point! ). I got that from Greg a year or so back.
No, I only have The Mountain, which I love to bits. Am I missing something ??

Restoration is outstanding stuff also, yes it is an EP, 3 songs of earlier material. The Mountain for me stands tall against Restoration though.
Affinity is a great album, a bit more accessible type songs than The Mountain...right now for me

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Here's a curious thing : a little while back I acquired MOTORPSYCHO's Behind The Sun. Side 1 is quite a novelty - a) there's no tracklist as such, b) it has a groove, c) plonk the arm down and there's a tune. Wow, you might say. Then play the side again, and VOILA !! A different tune gets played . This freaked me out. I don't know how theys did it, but theys did it


That's a dbl groove record, can only be done on vinyl, can't do it on the plastic silver drink coasters...Big smile
I still don't get how the arm knows which groove to play, is it just 'pot luck' ?? It alternates each time I tried !! Very clever indeed. And one track is longer than the other.......
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

  I still don't get how the arm knows which groove to play, is it just 'pot luck' ?? It alternates each time I tried !! Very clever indeed. And one track is longer than the other.......
 
Yeah, it's just random, depending on where the needle hits on the lead-in groove. I've heard of "horse race" records with multiple parallel grooves, so you get different race results depending on where the needle catches. The most famous double-grooved record is probably Monty Python's Matching Tie and Handkerchief.
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^ and here I am, thinking it's new and experimental innovation for vinyl   
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I read the other day that Tool's Lateralus has an hidden track like that but in the middle of one side.
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^ Not on the pressing I own.
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Marillion~Brave has a dbl groove on Side IV. The 'happy' ending groove plays Made Again, the 'downer' ending groove plays The Great Escape.
There are two leadin spots so it depends where you cue in the tonearm and which groove gets played.
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This great album sounds incredibly good, a first German pressing in mint condition. I'm sure I won't need another copy of it Wink
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^ Cool! I just got around to snagging that one myself about six months ago (U.S. pressing, though).
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^ Nice! In the end it's the music itself that truly matters, but a good source really enhances my appreciation for it Smile
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^ Yep. My copy has a touch of cover wear, but the vinyl is great. Your copy looks super-clean!
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Radio France is auctioning off their collection of about 8,000 records. You can check out what's going to be sold here.
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Originally posted by Michael P. Dawson Michael P. Dawson wrote:


^ Cool! I just got around to snagging that one myself about six months ago (U.S. pressing, though).
And I have the Aussie pressing of it - it's neat, but the cover is almost flimsy cardboard. I find myself focusing on the rhythm section a lot - Rayford Griffin and Randy Jackson !! No idol here
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Love the artwork on that Ponty album but I think his earlier ones are far better musically....especially Voyage and Ocean....
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Have never tried any JLP......
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^ Jose - I recommend you try JLP's album from 1985 called 'Fables'. Just plain fantastic !! Any of his 70's (well, from Upon The Wings Of Music onwards, from what I have) is a great listen. Cosmic Messenger is my personal fave.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Meltdowner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2016 at 04:19
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

I find myself focusing on the rhythm section a lot - Rayford Griffin and Randy Jackson !! No idol here
So did I Big smile Fantastic musicians Clap

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Love the artwork on that Ponty album but I think his earlier ones are far better musically....especially Voyage and Ocean....
That's the first one I bought from him but I'll surely get these two if I find them Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Jose - I recommend you try JLP's album from 1985 called 'Fables'. Just plain fantastic !! Any of his 70's (well, from Upon The Wings Of Music onwards, from what I have) is a great listen. Cosmic Messenger is my personal fave.

Will keep my eyes open.......
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Originally posted by LearsFool LearsFool wrote:

Radio France is auctioning off their collection of about 8,000 records. You can check out what's going to be sold here.
The Krautrock lots are fantastic but I couldn't buy the whole thing Tongue
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