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Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:07
I think, personally, the most instantaneous confrontation of prog at the start of a song lies in The Gates of Delirium by Yes. Just close your eyes and you'll enter a different world, most likely run by Roger Dean.
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Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:18
aldri7 wrote:
My definition of "screaming prog" - if I would feel a bit hesitant to play it for a girl I didn't know too well on a first date, it is probably screaming prog.
ex. Fountain of Salmacis, Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, The Cinema Show, The Musical Box (all Genesis). BTW - I think Supper's Ready is overrated :) All great, classic songs, but maybe I'd wait for the 2nd or 3rd date...
Happy the Man screams prog (ex. Upon the Rainbow) and Gentle Giant
Neither KC nor Pink Floyd scream prog to me. Great music, but "scream" means, like, totally in your face, undiluted, unabashed, and just a wee bit nuts.
I would probably not play "Squirrel" by Anthony Phillips to a girl on a first date either.
But now - I don't think the poster was asking for favorites necessarily - just prog that screams prog. For me, whether it screams or not is not as important as other factors.
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Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:34
Svetonio, thats much better....
Now consider what a critic of Prog Rock might call "screaming prog". Rock critics have always pointed to two things in particular that they find distressing about prog. One, it is "mature" (i.e. also complex, sophisitated, etc) rather than "adolescent". And two, it is non-blues based. Rock purists insist that true rock be grounded in the adolescent experience and be blues based (shooting themselves IMHO in the foot for suggesting that true rock cannot be "mature". Ye God, man - lets stumble through those three chords one more time, OK - and once we've mastered those and are ready to move on,we can no longer consider ourselves to be true rock musicians but uppity types now?)
Anyway, so then "screaming" prog would then be the least adolescent and the least blues based music in all of rock.
With that in mind, I might nominate Gentle Giant as the definative screaming prog band. Why, because its the band that i picture ROCK PURISTS AS HATING THE MOST!!!...:) IEEEEAAHH!!
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Posted: April 24 2014 at 19:55
Svetonio wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
^ Whatever floats ya boat. To me, very little of their stuff comes off as prog.
Jazzrock is also prog. Do you know this one:
Well, if this is not proggy screaming track, then I confess to almighty Prog Gods that I don't know what prog is.
Proggy jazz rock. That band sounds really cool! I'll investigate them further coz I really quite enjoyed that. Shame about the production. Hopefully it sounds a bit better not on youtube.
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Posted: April 24 2014 at 20:12
Horizons wrote:
I'm glad you've realized your error.
I'm sorry but to think that West of Hollywood screams prog is just simply wrong, Sounds like typical blues in a muzak style. Nothing about that song is progressive, let alone prog.
Regardless of SD being on this site, their music doesn't evoke prog, and just because they're on here doesn't mean i'm wrong. I could post a Solo Robert Plant song or maybe some material from Hazards Of Love, but they still wouldn't make sense for this thread.
It's not blues (let alone typical blues), and calling it muzak would be a bit harsh, no? Yes, West of Hollywood is one of Steely Dan's more ambitious tracks, and at a push could be called prog... Just. Once again hardly screaming it. I think many of us here who know Steely Dan well would say they have their proggy moments, but overall, they're not a prog rock band.
Edit: Damn, I got into a "is it prog?" discussion. I was doing well not bothering with this sh*t, ya know.
^I've actually never heard anything live from Le Orme, although I just read Michael's (Aussie-Byrd) review here the other day. I may have to look for that 1997 clip on YouTube, thanks man
Oh and I moved this thread to lists.
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 19:30
Yours is no Disgrace - The Yes Album - 1971. My first encounter with Progressive Rock. Somehow, life was never the same after that. I think it rewired my brain and I have been thankful for it ever since.
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