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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2014 at 20:20
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

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1. Santana - "Samba Pa Ti"
2. Hiromi Uehara - "Return Of The Kung-Fu World Champion"
3. Fleetwood Mac - "Sunny Side Of Heaven" (dig this one more than "Albatross" actually)
4. Black Sabbath - "Orchid"
5. Black Sabbath - "Laguna Sunrise"
6. Led Zeppelin - "Bron-Yr-Aur" (although I've probably been pronouncing it wrong..."Brawn Yar!!"
7. Iron Maiden - "Genghis Khan"
8. Venom - "Mayhem With Mercy"
9. Mercyful Fate - "To One Far Away"
10. Mason Williams - "Classical Gas" (I only remember this guy's name because his first name is Nick's last name)
 
 
 
I'm sure I have heard 1, 4, 5, 6, and 7, with 6 and 7 both being good.  I can't place the Sabbath songs, but it did remind me of Fluff, which I know fairly well since Wakeman was on that album.  LOL


Yeah, "Fluff" deserves a mention but it's almost too...um...fluffy.Tongue
"Orchid" is that little acoustic guitar ditty on Master Of Reality and "Laguna Sunrise" is a beautiful bugger from Volume 4. In a way 8 and 9 are like those in that they're serene little acoustic ditties surrounded by a full-on metal onslaught, making them easy to remember name-wise since they stick out like sore thumbs on the albums they're on, like a nice breath of fresh air before more craziness ensues.

"Sunny Side Of Heaven" is from the Bare Trees album, which came out during that oddball era of Fleetwood Mac post Green and pre-Buckingham/Nicks. The main melody repeats itself a lot but it's so damn gorgeous I'm not bothered in the least.

I sort of busted out these ten real fast; if I thought more I would included "Hairless Heart" from Genesis and some others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2014 at 23:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2014 at 02:15
I thought Frankenstein was The Edgar Winter Group?

anyway there are loads of instrumentals I love and know by name

a small selection of my favourites:

ELP - Hoedown
Rick Wakeman - Catherine Parr
Martin Orford - Speed and Power
Rush - YYZ
East Of Eden - Jig a Jig
Hot Butter - Popcorn (yes I do like that!)
Space - Magic Fly
JMJarre - Oxygene Part2
Love Sculpture - Sabre Dance
Yes - Cinema
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2014 at 07:39
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I thought Frankenstein was The Edgar Winter Group?

anyway there are loads of instrumentals I love and know by name

a small selection of my favourites:

ELP - Hoedown
Rick Wakeman - Catherine Parr
Martin Orford - Speed and Power
Rush - YYZ
East Of Eden - Jig a Jig
Hot Butter - Popcorn (yes I do like that!)
Space - Magic Fly
JMJarre - Oxygene Part2
Love Sculpture - Sabre Dance
Yes - Cinema
 
What does The Edgar Winter Group sound like?
I think we could also add Rick Wakemans' Jane Seymour and Catherine Howard. It would be nice also to add Catherine of Aragon, but maybe wouldn't fit here because of that female chorus, it is another great track anyway.
From ELP I enjoyed Promenade very much, and the Promenade I & III are instrumental - I think also worth mentioning here. I need to know ELP better, from BSS I knew only the incredible Jerusalem. But from Trilogy infortunately I actually enjoyed only The Endless Enigma (pt. 1 & 2.)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2014 at 12:22
The only ones I have difficulty with are the albums full of seguing instrumentals like "Wind & Wuthering" and "Islands" with titles don't really fit the music. All Rush instrumentals are instantly recognisable though, and the titles usually fit them

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2014 at 02:22
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I thought Frankenstein was The Edgar Winter Group?

anyway there are loads of instrumentals I love and know by name

a small selection of my favourites:

ELP - Hoedown
Rick Wakeman - Catherine Parr
Martin Orford - Speed and Power
Rush - YYZ
East Of Eden - Jig a Jig
Hot Butter - Popcorn (yes I do like that!)
Space - Magic Fly
JMJarre - Oxygene Part2
Love Sculpture - Sabre Dance
Yes - Cinema
 
What does The Edgar Winter Group sound like?
I think we could also add Rick Wakemans' Jane Seymour and Catherine Howard. It would be nice also to add Catherine of Aragon, but maybe wouldn't fit here because of that female chorus, it is another great track anyway.
From ELP I enjoyed Promenade very much, and the Promenade I & III are instrumental - I think also worth mentioning here. I need to know ELP better, from BSS I knew only the incredible Jerusalem. But from Trilogy infortunately I actually enjoyed only The Endless Enigma (pt. 1 & 2.)

I could have included anything from Six Wives. The whole album is a masterpeice.

ELP have many instrumentals and Hoedown is my favourite. Other notable ones:

The Barbarian
Tank
Infinite Space
Fugue (middle bit of Endless Enigma)
Abaddons Bolero
Toccata
Karn Evil 9 2nd Impression
Fanfare For The Common Man
Canario
Romeo and Juliet
Changing States

well worth youtubeing some of those

On the Edgar Winter Group you must watch this. You will be gobsmacked I'm sure!









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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2014 at 02:35
A great forgotten instrumental by the late great Cozy Powell


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2014 at 20:23
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I thought Frankenstein was The Edgar Winter Group?

anyway there are loads of instrumentals I love and know by name

a small selection of my favourites:

ELP - Hoedown
Rick Wakeman - Catherine Parr
Martin Orford - Speed and Power
Rush - YYZ
East Of Eden - Jig a Jig
Hot Butter - Popcorn (yes I do like that!)
Space - Magic Fly
JMJarre - Oxygene Part2
Love Sculpture - Sabre Dance
Yes - Cinema
 
What does The Edgar Winter Group sound like?
I think we could also add Rick Wakemans' Jane Seymour and Catherine Howard. It would be nice also to add Catherine of Aragon, but maybe wouldn't fit here because of that female chorus, it is another great track anyway.
From ELP I enjoyed Promenade very much, and the Promenade I & III are instrumental - I think also worth mentioning here. I need to know ELP better, from BSS I knew only the incredible Jerusalem. But from Trilogy infortunately I actually enjoyed only The Endless Enigma (pt. 1 & 2.)
 
I could have included anything from Six Wives. The whole album is a masterpeice.
 
ELP have many instrumentals and Hoedown is my favourite. Other notable ones:
 
The Barbarian
Tank
Infinite Space
Fugue (middle bit of Endless Enigma)
Abaddons Bolero
Toccata
Karn Evil 9 2nd Impression
Fanfare For The Common Man
Canario
Romeo and Juliet
Changing States
 
well worth youtubeing some of those
 
On the Edgar Winter Group you must watch this. You will be gobsmacked I'm sure!
 
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Thank you Richardh! for your suggestions, Fugue is from Trilogy too, isn't it? Yes I gave it another chance and it's a nice piano piece, and as you very well pointed it nicely goes by the middle of the wonderful Endless Enigma for me too.
I noticed you didn't mention Tarkus as one of your favourites. But Karn Evil 9 I enjoyed it entirely! At the first listen I enjoyed mostly the 1st. and the 3rd. impressions (stunning passages!). And what a superb tracks are Romeo And Juliet & Changing States!
Believe it or not - since the time I was just a boy until now I didn't know yet that a really fantastic music passage used as a curtain of a TV sport program was from the ELP's track Fanfare For The Common Man! What a good surprise... So uniquely nice to listen to it again after so much time man! I recognized it instantly just at its beggining, but it's amazing in its entirety and a must have track from ELP I think! Even if it has also a sentimental value for me.
I'm just so glad to know these superb tracks, an amazing experience to me, being caught now even better by this fantastic band's style, really enjoying them even more now. I'd like to know 21st Century Schizoid Man too, it's too much mentioned in PA Forum, as well as many others too. I think I'll begin looking for the album "Black Moon", isn't it great too? It might be at a stunning acquisition, don't you think?
 
Yeah the Edgar Winter Group has a powerful sound indeed, this track seemed to me being a bit jazz influenced, am I right? But that's what unfortunately is a difficulty I've always had with the rock music in general, which almost always features these influences in diverse degrees I think. Cream for example is a band I never could really like more than some tracks from them, even though there are quite a few songs from Eric Clapton's solo works that I enjoy a lot.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2014 at 22:46
I'm bad with names of instrumentals but  Meeting Of The Spirits by Mahavishnu and After The Cosmic Rain by Return To Forever are two of my favorite fusion things  so they stuck in my head......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2014 at 00:05
This might come off sounding quite daft but any song I can recognize by the melody/opening/etc I know the name of. So really...any song I've heard enough times (that's instrumental obviously).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2014 at 00:42
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I thought Frankenstein was The Edgar Winter Group?

It was a rough winter, either way.  And yes your right, I should have said Edgar Winter Group instead of Johnny.  Embarrassed  I knew better than that, but my brain got in the way. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2014 at 01:04
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I thought Frankenstein was The Edgar Winter Group?

It was a rough winter, either way.  And yes your right, I should have said Edgar Winter Group instead of Johnny.  Embarrassed  I knew better than that, but my brain got in the way. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2014 at 01:18
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I thought Frankenstein was The Edgar Winter Group?

anyway there are loads of instrumentals I love and know by name

a small selection of my favourites:

ELP - Hoedown
Rick Wakeman - Catherine Parr
Martin Orford - Speed and Power
Rush - YYZ
East Of Eden - Jig a Jig
Hot Butter - Popcorn (yes I do like that!)
Space - Magic Fly
JMJarre - Oxygene Part2
Love Sculpture - Sabre Dance
Yes - Cinema
 
What does The Edgar Winter Group sound like?
I think we could also add Rick Wakemans' Jane Seymour and Catherine Howard. It would be nice also to add Catherine of Aragon, but maybe wouldn't fit here because of that female chorus, it is another great track anyway.
From ELP I enjoyed Promenade very much, and the Promenade I & III are instrumental - I think also worth mentioning here. I need to know ELP better, from BSS I knew only the incredible Jerusalem. But from Trilogy infortunately I actually enjoyed only The Endless Enigma (pt. 1 & 2.)
 
I could have included anything from Six Wives. The whole album is a masterpeice.
 
ELP have many instrumentals and Hoedown is my favourite. Other notable ones:
 
The Barbarian
Tank
Infinite Space
Fugue (middle bit of Endless Enigma)
Abaddons Bolero
Toccata
Karn Evil 9 2nd Impression
Fanfare For The Common Man
Canario
Romeo and Juliet
Changing States
 
well worth youtubeing some of those
 
On the Edgar Winter Group you must watch this. You will be gobsmacked I'm sure!
 
........................................
  
 
Thank you Richardh! for your suggestions, Fugue is from Trilogy too, isn't it? Yes I gave it another chance and it's a nice piano piece, and as you very well pointed it nicely goes by the middle of the wonderful Endless Enigma for me too.
I noticed you didn't mention Tarkus as one of your favourites. But Karn Evil 9 I enjoyed it entirely! At the first listen I enjoyed mostly the 1st. and the 3rd. impressions (stunning passages!). And what a superb tracks are Romeo And Juliet & Changing States!
Believe it or not - since the time I was just a boy until now I didn't know yet that a really fantastic music passage used as a curtain of a TV sport program was from the ELP's track Fanfare For The Common Man! What a good surprise... So uniquely nice to listen to it again after so much time man! I recognized it instantly just at its beggining, but it's amazing in its entirety and a must have track from ELP I think! Even if it has also a sentimental value for me.
I'm just so glad to know these superb tracks, an amazing experience to me, being caught now even better by this fantastic band's style, really enjoying them even more now. I'd like to know 21st Century Schizoid Man too, it's too much mentioned in PA Forum, as well as many others too. I think I'll begin looking for the album "Black Moon", isn't it great too? It might be at a stunning acquisition, don't you think?
 
Yeah the Edgar Winter Group has a powerful sound indeed, this track seemed to me being a bit jazz influenced, am I right? But that's what unfortunately is a difficulty I've always had with the rock music in general, which almost always features these influences in diverse degrees I think. Cream for example is a band I never could really like more than some tracks from them, even though there are quite a few songs from Eric Clapton's solo works that I enjoy a lot.

I tend to see Tarkus as one complete piece of music but then there are some great instrumental passages , none better than Eruption probably one of the best moments in prog. As a 14 year old I was totally hooked when I first heard that!

Karn Evil 9 - Yep ELP never bettered it

Fanfare For The Common Man in its album form is something different. Once you get past the well known single portion it takes on a life of its own. 'Unique' as you say and endorsed by Aaron Copeland. Classical composers contrary to popular opinion do like to have their music meddled with!

Black Moon - yep its a solid release but over time doesn't stack up against ELP's best. Its a nice release but there are literally 1000's of prog albums that are better.

Edgar Winter Group - I know very little about this group other than the title track. Excuse the pun but it is an absolute 'monster'. Yep everything but the kitchen sink is thrown in. Sometimes that can 'offend' the ears but for me it centers on a great riff and the section with the ascending keyboard synth sequence is total genius. Visually its so brilliant as well.Did you notice that Edgar is an 'albino'? What with the white hair as well. A true 'one off'.

Cream were an important band but I'm with you in that I only care for a few tracks.Tales Of Brave Ulysees being high up there. I would be a fan if they had done more of that.

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Acid Rain
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Anne Of Cleves
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2014 at 23:15
Here are ones I could come up with from memory. They're not ranked or anything.

The Waiting Room - Genesis
Supernatural Anesthetist - Genesis
Sierra Quemada - Hackett
Air conditioned Nightmare - Hackett
Horizons - Hackett
Tubehead - Steve Hackett
Transylvanian Express - Steve Hackett
Howl - Steve Hackett
Four Winds: East - Steve Hackett
Serpentine Song - Steve Hackett
The Silk Road - Steve Hackett
She Said Maybe - Steve Hackett
Hammer in the Sand - Steve Hackett
Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers - Genesis
In that Quiet Earth - Genesis
Los Endos - Genesis
Water Curtain Cave - Jade Warrior
Barazinbar - Jade Warrior
Obedience - Jade Warrior
Mountain of Fruit and Flowers - Jade Warrior
On the Mountain of Fruit and Flowers - Jade Warrior
Sanga - Jade Warrior
Waves, Part I
Waves, Part II
The Flower of T'Chai Blooms Everywhere - Steve Hackett
five-five-Five - Frank Zappa
Hog Heaven - FZ
Shut Up N' Play Yer Guitar - FZ
Soup 'n Old Clothes - FZ
Peaches en Regalia - FZ
The Black Page - FZ
Canard Du Jour - FZ
Ship Ahoy - FZ
Shut up 'N Play Yer Guitar Some More - FZ
Return of the Son of Shut Up N' Play Yer Guitar - FZ
Variations on the Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression - FZ
Beat it With Your Fist - FZ
Waterfall - Jade Warrior
Monkey Chant - Jade Warrior
Spectral Mornings - Steve Hackett
Wind, Sand and Stars
After the Ordeal - Genesis
Ravine - Genesis
Jacuzzi - Steve Hackett
The Steppes - Steve Hackett
Hackett to Pieces - Steve Hackett
Hackett to Bits - GTR
Where Endless Meets Disappearing - Henry Kaiser
The Talking Drum - King Crimson
Sartori in Tangier - King Crimson
The Sheltering Sky - King Crimson
Providence - King Crimson
Lark's Tongues in Aspic, Part I, II, and III - King Crimson
Industry - King Crimson

I did fairly well because I really target the instrumental pieces, and make my own personal compilations from them. Some select albums, however, that I listen to frequently, and cannot name a single instrumental piece are:
Gong - You
Nektar - Journey to the Center of the Eye
Henry Kaiser - Lemon Fish Tweezer
Anglagard - Viljans Öga
Steve Hackett - Momentum
Frank Zappa - Guitar
Edhel - Oriental Christmas
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2014 at 18:23
Too many to list! Here are some of my favorites:

Ars Nova – Transi; Ankh
Jeff Beck – Blue Wind; Star Cycle
Al Di Meola – Race with Devil on Spanish Highway; Cruisin'
Djam Karet – Night of the Mexican Goat Sucker; Ten Days to the Sand
ELP – Tank; The Barbarian
Keith Emerson – La Chiesa; Montagues & Capulets (alt. of "Romeo & Juliet")
Edgar Froese – Drunken Mozart in the Desert; Stuntman
Goblin – Roller; Zaratozom
Jan Hammer – Darkness (Earth in Search of a Sun); Night Talk
Erik Norlander – Metamorphosis; Adrift on the Fire Seas of Orion's Shield
Ozric Tentacles – The Throbbe; Sploosh!
Rocket Scientists – Copernicus; Space: 1999
Rush – The Main Monkey Business; YYZ
Claudio Simonetti – Craws; Phenomena
Synergy – Warriors; Revolt at L-5
Tangerine Dream – Remote Viewing; Cloudburst Flight
Rick Wakeman – Ice Run; The Breathalyser
Weather Report – Birdland; Teen Town
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2014 at 19:14
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Fanfare For The Common Man in its album form is something different. Once you get past the well known single portion it takes on a life of its own. 'Unique' as you say and endorsed by Aaron Copeland. Classical composers contrary to popular opinion do like to have their music meddled with!



There's a single version of that song? I never knew that. I've only ever heard the full version, which is probably the highlight on a decent album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2014 at 19:49
^Recently I've been searching for other ELP performances of this sublime piece of music, and these are the single versions I already know that exist:
   
Rubicon (1998) - 2:30 min. long;
   
Affairs Of The Heart (CD Single 1992) - 5:42 min. long.
   
But imo Fanfare For The Common Man in its album form is not only something different like Richardh pointed out, it has also that brilliant and genuine touch so characteristic of this fantastic band that recently turned out to be one of my BIG favourites, everytime that I listen to them I find some new incredibly beautiful subtilties. Btw I would like so much to know from the ELP specialists what are their impressions about other performances of the Fanfare For The Common Man, like the ones below, as unfortunately I couldn't purchase these albums yet, but can't wait to know them:
   
Best Of The Bootlegs (CD2 2002) - more than 14:30 min. long;
   
Then & Now (CD2 1998 ) - more than 22 mins. long.


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Pretty much every instrumental I'm familiar with. I always look at the tracklist of whatever album I'm listening to so I'm aware of what song is what, instrumental or not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2014 at 01:13
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

^Recently I've been searching for other ELP performances of this sublime piece of music, and these are the single versions I already know that exist:
   
Rubicon (1998) - 2:30 min. long;
   
Affairs Of The Heart (CD Single 1992) - 5:42 min. long.
   
But imo Fanfare For The Common Man in its album form is not only something different like Richardh pointed out, it has also that brilliant and genuine touch so characteristic of this fantastic band that recently turned out to be one of my BIG favourites, everytime that I listen to them I find some new incredibly beautiful subtilties. Btw I would like so much to know from the ELP specialists what are their impressions about other performances of the Fanfare For The Common Man, like the ones below, as unfortunately I couldn't purchase these albums yet, but can't wait to know them:
   
Best Of The Bootlegs (CD2 2002) - more than 14:30 min. long;
   
Then & Now (CD2 1998 ) - more than 22 mins. long.

There are so many versions of Fanfare For The Common Man

It often included an extended version of the track Rondo. ELP were quite fond of tacking this on so Emerson could do his knife thing. The version they played at Montreal Olympic Stadium in 1977 with orchestra is my favourite although the full version is only available on the video ( It was horribly edited on Works Live). There is also a good version on the Live at Nassau Coliseum album from around the same time ( but no orchestra).

The 90's versions often included other classical pieces. The Then and Now version includes some Carmina Burana I think. There is a also a great version on the Live In Poland album which I prefer more than the performance on Then And Now. The band considered it a bootleg though and wouldn't recognise it as an official release outside of Poland (licencing issues).

With the official bootlegs series I tend to get a bit bored with them once you get past 1974. The Springfield Coliseum gig in 1974 is the apex of those series. Includes an amazing performance of Pictures At An Exhibition among other things.


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