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Posted: July 18 2014 at 09:33 |
 Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
It's $10 on CD on Amazon, which I think is well worth it, but I'm assuming it will be somewhere over $30 on vinyl?! Now that's pushing the friendship!  |
yeah i know!! gahhh, i still don't know if i should buy it! hopefully ill make a decision in due time but i need to see if they is any updates on what i should get.
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Posted: July 18 2014 at 09:05 |
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One of the things about the reception of Calling All Stations is the
notable absence of crtique of the drummer. Always it's the singers
y'know like a pop group!
But comparisons between the erstwhile
Phil and the briefly new Nir? This is roughly where I thought the album
needed some thing more - Collins was way too imaginative a drummer to
have his absence, um, filled on drums and vocals as well - though I
thought Ray Wilson was just fine. The We Can't Dance satire on jeans
commercials followed by the satirists getting the singer of said jeans
commercials was also good fun. Apparently Roger Waters didn't get the
joke even when Phil explained it to him (Rog hated We can't Dance).
Still,
the drummer and singer left this was it, it was like half the band left
while two new guys had to make their identity felt and the band
identity also take a new hold.
Seems every time there is a change the reaction is always negative - oh no, the band starts playing different tunes!
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for Yes, thought Fly was fine (except that Man He Always Wanted To Be
song of Squire's I thought was so dull. It could have fitted on
Squackett... in fact if you switch the fine opening of that album with
Squire's song you've got a great Fly From Here and an even worse
Squackett album.
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Posted: July 14 2014 at 06:22 |
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^ True, same could be said for Ray Wilson in terms of legacy |
Spot on observation, Chris! I know there are some that despise that `Calling All Stations' album. I'm not one of them, I should add...I think it's a decent AOR/prog-lite/adult pop album with strong vocals from a vocalist giving his best, and I like that it's covered in keyboards. Shame that every track ends on a fadeout though. I think it's a little unfair that Banks and Rutherford really kind of ignore it almost altogether, as I feel Ray Wilson deserves a little better. How could anyone replace what a massive personality (both in Genesis and especially solo) Phil Collins was - impossible! I hope both Ray and Benoit have some good memories from their time with the big boys. 
Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - July 14 2014 at 06:25
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Posted: July 14 2014 at 04:43 |
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^ True, same could be said for Ray Wilson in terms of legacy
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 21:19 |
Dellinger, I think the difference is that Benoit came in to only sing on `Fly From Here', whereas Jon D actually was there from the start and was able to contribute to the song-writing and arrangements, therefore being able to connect with the material better. I do wish Benoit had been able to get more of a chance to make his mark in Yes, but being involved in some part of their legacy is pretty special anyway
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 21:10 |
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
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I would have expected him to have done a much better job with songs from Fly from Here. |
Dellinger, I actually thought Benoit sounded quite bland on `Fly From Here', devoid of his usual warmth and personality that shone through on his `Mystery' albums. His efforts seemed over-producted and worked on until there was almost no trace of him left. But I have to admit, I thought he was absolutely spot on on the `Live at Lyons' live album!
Poor Benoit...I'm pretty sure he's thrown in music altogether now...  |
Well, I haven't heard any Mistery albums, so I couldn't compare him with that. I heard him live once (actually, I could have bought a Mistery album there, but just didn't make up my mind for it), and thought he was just a bit uncomfortable with the voice range. And on Live at Lyons he sounded better than when I heard him live, but still I wouldn't find much of a reason for wanting to hear those versions instead of one with Anderson on vocals... Benoit is still missing something. I thought his singing on FfH was rather beautiful, but if it could be considered overproduced, then again, perhaps the best way we could have really heard what he was capable of giving us was if we got a recording from FfH songs live.
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 13:31 |
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The first response was the answer. The most popular artists and album is just the number of page visits.
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 13:16 |
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Alright already in the 3rd page and nobody did answer the OP question, except Finnforest whose answer was seemingly a guess
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 08:29 |
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Chris, played some Fly tonight.....not too bad!
Michael....if I get a chance I'll try to take a pic of Chuck in the closet for you
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What's that you say? Charles Bronson is coming out of the closet? Who'd have guessed.
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 01:08 |
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maybe not his best album.but, yes always are yes! the best band of the world!!!
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 23:24 |
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I hear ya man....lol
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 23:14 |
Awesome, Jim, about giving `Fly' a try, and also about Chuck.... But I'll have you know, Chuck Bronson is all rugged man and is in the closest for NO MAN!
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 23:08 |
Chris, played some Fly tonight.....not too bad! Michael....if I get a chance I'll try to take a pic of Chuck in the closet for you
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 22:45 |
Dellinger wrote:
I would have expected him to have done a much better job with songs from Fly from Here. |
Dellinger, I actually thought Benoit sounded quite bland on `Fly From Here', devoid of his usual warmth and personality that shone through on his `Mystery' albums. His efforts seemed over-producted and worked on until there was almost no trace of him left. But I have to admit, I thought he was absolutely spot on on the `Live at Lyons' live album! Poor Benoit...I'm pretty sure he's thrown in music altogether now...
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 22:33 |
Chris S wrote:
I am 51 years of age, have been internet savvy since the late 90's and I am confused as sh&t.......the album is only released on the 18th of July and from my understanding only a couple of tracks have been shared by the record company..................So can someone help me...do you think I have Alzheimers??? Anyhow ref Finnforest/Jim......comments re Fly From Here.............I love the album, was giving it a spin again last night. Benoit David has an excellent " studio" voice. IMHO he was awful from what I heard live but his voice really worked in dub mode. a great album for 2011 and I must confess I will gladly part with some bucks for the new release. Historically PA was much less forgiving on reviews/rating for albums not released yet but hey maybe it was already I am suffering from some kind of dementia. All I would say to those naysayers out there, give the album a chance. We are blessed to have another release from this epic band. Embrace that first then decide. |
I did enjoy Fly from Here well enough. Even though they were more pop than prog, the 3 main songs from the suite were rather very beautiful, as well as the last song from the album. And indeed I was surprised by how beautiful Benoit's voice sounded on the album, since I had actually heard him live and felt he fell a bit short from what was needed for those songs. However, I would think that the main problem with his live singing was trying to sing like Anderson instead of singing in a comfortable voice for himself... I would have expected him to have done a much better job with songs from Fly from Here.
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 22:28 |
Rush? ahhhh....no.
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 22:26 |
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I found the album much more enjoyable than reviews would have led me to believe. And I generally don't like the post-peak albums from the dinosaurs, with but a few exceptions. I'd say this sounds more enthusiastic and more interesting than the last two Floyd albums, which always struck me as guys "going through the motions" with little spark. Yes may sound lighter here but they sound engaged. Sure it's not 1973 Yes, but who can expect senior citizens to rock like young guys. Adjust your expectations if you're going to try it.
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Actually, I really really like those two last Floyd albums (specially Division Bell, which is one of my favs from them) and am really looking forward for the new album (I'm much more interested on that one than the Yes one, actually). I really love Gilmour's guitar solos on those ones. About senior's rocking like young guys... I don't know, perhaps Rush would fit the description?
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 20:49 |
*ahem* Once again, I'd like to remind folks that I suggested Jon Davison as a suitable replacement for Benoit David back in 2011:
I'm disappointed in the songs from H & E posted thus far, but I'll hold judgement until I hear the whole thing several times. I really like Jon Davison a great deal, his work on "Perilous" by Glass Hammer remains a recent favorite of mine! And, he plays bass nicely, so he may evolve into the future of Yes.
However, the lyrics are quite insipid! They should have hired a pro, like King Crimson usually does.
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 19:11 |
I am 51 years of age, have been internet savvy since the late 90's and I am confused as sh&t.......the album is only released on the 18th of July and from my understanding only a couple of tracks have been shared by the record company..................So can someone help me...do you think I have Alzheimers???
Anyhow ref Finnforest/Jim......comments re Fly From Here.............I love the album, was giving it a spin again last night. Benoit David has an excellent " studio" voice. IMHO he was awful from what I heard live but his voice really worked in dub mode. a great album for 2011 and I must confess I will gladly part with some bucks for the new release. Historically PA was much less forgiving on reviews/rating for albums not released yet but hey maybe it was already I am suffering from some kind of dementia.
All I would say to those naysayers out there, give the album a chance. We are blessed to have another release from this epic band. Embrace that first then decide.
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 19:03 |
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