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Points: 13 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2005 at 15:10
Sucks donkey sh*t.
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2005 at 16:15
Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

I'll follow the race Stonebeard:
  1. Ars Nova: Japanese Symphonic Prog
  2. Par Lindh Project: One of the most obscure and elaborate Symphonic Prog bands ever, from the Swedish Symphonic rebirth of the 90's, in some albums a Swedish supergroup that included members of Anglagard plus Roine Stoltz. I would dare to say this Project is Symphonic/Gothic/Prog.
  3. Gerard: Also Japanese band from the 21st Century, closer to Art Rock than to Neo Prog but with a jazzy touch. Even if some people consider Neo, they are not remotely representative of the sub-genre because too poppy.
  4. Romantic Warrior: Hey, isn't this the name of a Return to Forever album? if it is, the band is clearly and 100% Fusion. If you are talking about the band Romantic Warrior, it's New Age
  5. Trespass (Israel): Is a band from Israel clearly influenced by ELO, not Neo Prog either, closer to Symphonic, good band though, their album In Haze of Time has been largely reviewed here. If you're talking about Trespass (Germany), they are also Symphonic with a touch of Grobschnitt, would be very unusual to find 43 minute tracks in Neo Prog.
  6. Tocatta: Never heard about them, even checked Allmusic and doesn't appear even there.
  7. Empire: A 100% Italian Symphonic band from the 90's.

So I will also haveto disagree with you Andrew, none of this bands except maybe Glass Hammer and Tocatta (Because I heven't heard them), are Neo Prog, I'll go with Stonebeard this time.

Iván

ANYWAY I LIKE THE BANDS THAT I MENTIONED.

  1. ARS NOVA IS A FEMALE JAPANESE BAND REAALY GREAT CLOSE TO ELP.
  2. GERARD ARE A ALSO A JAPANESE BAND ALSO CLOSE TO ELP.
  3. I PERFECTLY KNOW RETURN TO FOREVER DON'T WORRY! ROMANTIC WARRIORS IS A BAND FROM TORINO :
  • GIOVANNI FAGA - BASS
  • FULVIO CHIRICO - DRUMS
  • BEPPE CROVELLA - KEYBOARDS, VOCALS
  • FABRIZIO FRATUCELLI - GUITARS

CD : "BATTLEFIELD" (1993) vinyl magic - VMNP 475526-2

DON'T YOU KNOW THOSE MUSICIANS?

  1. TRESPASS (ISRAEL) : THIS IS A THREE PIECE FROM ISRAEL ; THEIR SOUND IS A BRAND OF PROG/BAROQUE/JAZZ/BLUES/FOLK;"IN HAZE OF TIME"(2002), IS A SYMPHONIC PROG MASTERPIECE! YOU MAY THINK OF ELP, FOCUS, NICE AND UK!
  2. TOCCATA IS A NEO-PROGRESSIVE ROCK BAND FROM MEXICO; "CIRCE" IS THEIR DEBUT (2005); THEY ARE IN THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!
  3. EMPIRE IS AN ITALIAN SYMPHONIC BAND FROM RHE 90's (you've guested finally)????
  • EMPIRE :

EDO ROGANI : ALL KEYBOARDS

PAOLO SBURLATI : ALL DRUMS

ROSANNA DE LUCA - ALL VOCALS

CD : "BACK TO KNOWLEDGE" Synergy Records & Vinyl Magic 1994

IT'S OK NOW???!!!

Can't get your point Andrew:

  • I said none of the bands you mention is Neo Prog, except maybe Glass Hammer (Which I also know and have reviewed, and still ot sure if they are Neo), Romantic Warriors (Which is also a New Age band) and Toccata (The last two I didn't knew)
  • I think I proved that first point
  • I described each and every one, so I'm not guessing as you say, I already wrote reviews about 4 of them
  • I never said they were bad, most are great.

BTW: The Italian Romantic Warriors is a JAZZ FUSION BAND according to their own semi official site:

Quote From: Mark Fonda <>
Romantic Warriors - 'Battlefield' (Italy 1993):
Romantic Warriors are the reincarnation of the 70's Italian jazz-rock group "Arti E Mestieri" featuring keyboard great Beppe Crovella and drummer Furio Chirico along with several guest performers. Crovella had been manager for such notable Italian prog groups as "Calliope", "Syndone" and "Il Castello Di Atlante" before taking this symphonic rock trip down memory lane. Armed to the hilt with a battery of keyboards, he recreates the glorious sounds of the 70's with a strong keyboard emphasis... Hammond, Moog, Mellotron, Arp, Yamaha, Roland, Proteus, Emu - you name it. There are some vocals which are in English and are perhaps the only weak point. The 12-track album is mostly pure instrumentals which are truly impressive. The packaging is a beautiful triple-foldout digipak with medieval warriors in armor on their steeds and carrying instruments instead of lances. No website is currently available.

http://www.e-prog.net/bands/romantic.htm

But I agree, most are good.

Iván



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Points: 518 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2005 at 16:59
I voted Yummy, but I think the original prog greats are way better....(Genesis, Yes, GG, Jethro Tull)
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2005 at 17:04

I'vebeen thinking about this issue since this poll started, and I found how much my perspective has changed.

I used to find Neo Prog too bland and commercially oriented, but after the invention of Prog Related, things have changed, at least Neo Propg is Progressive Rock, may be simmpler han Symphonic, but it's part of the genre.

Still not my favorite sub-genre but at least I have to accept they belong here, something I can't say about many other bands from the Pandora Box named Prog Related.

Iván

 
            
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