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earlyprog
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Easy to forget as they were years ahead of their time...
Exactly, love Nivram.
I would add Andy Latimer to the list. Edited by earlyprog - March 24 2021 at 13:36 |
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Thanks for sharing it. No question in my mind about that sounding like proto prog. With The Shadows or as they were known before that, The Drifters you can hear proto as far back as 1959. Try this one called Jet Black. Well if it takes organ or keyboard to make it to proto prog, do I detect some organ here in 1959? A couple of others from the Drifters worth checking out are Chinchilla and Driftin' Nick
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The Beatles, 'Cry for a Shadow' - not an accidental title.
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This thread died when it was moved to it's proper location where only few will see it
Nonetheless, it's remains interesting, IMO, so here's my part II of what they were cooking in Proto-Prog's R&D Department in 1962. 'Telstar' by The Tornados is epic as stated earlier but definitely also this: Edited by earlyprog - March 26 2021 at 12:11 |
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^ Nice. What's up Dan? Hope all's well!
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I'm alive and kickin' well, dear Steve Perhaps some of my early US pre-proto-prog can support your opinions in your 'Early UK vs US prog' thread. Surely, I'm supporting your view on the Zappa/Beefheart/RIO Avant Prog US direction...
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What I always liked about you, Steve, is your patience and persistence with ignorant PA members.....and your profound knowledge...and we never really disagreed....
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(Admittedly, this is an attempt to perform a first aid procedure for cardiac arrest to this thread....) I don't recognize any of the two songs (Dylan 'House of the rising Sun and Shadows 'Little "B"') as game changers. Both artists were game changers, but Dylan not until 1963 and Shadows with other songs from 1962. I have listed other '62 tracks above and will move back in time to '61 with clavioline (a game changer) and the whole game changing instrument lot: |
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That Alan Watts is a trip! Ok staying with 1962. This must be the version that inspired Led Zeppelin's Custard Pie foot stomping from Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee live at the Fret. And some Jazz from Kenny Burrell & John Coltrane - Lyresto Nick
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Don't get too hung up about the two song choices. They were deliberate when i did my initial post. Dylan was an easy choice with House of the Rising Sun as that would inevitably compare with The Animals besides him being acknowledged for his Folk contribution by almost everyone. The Shadows a little tougher since many associate them with Cliff Richards and easier to pooh pooh away. I chose the drum solo Little B simply because you can associate it to modern rock drummers. No other reason as you rightly point out they have many other songs to choose from as participated by you and others :) ps... remember that this post was also more about questions around older artists inspiring others to get to where it all ends up in the late 60s which is much easier to document. Nick Edited by Spaciousmind - March 27 2021 at 13:35 |
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As I pointed out in the appropriate poll, Chris Cutler started off in a Shadows cover band. He is a phenomenal prog drummer, but one has to assume he was at least somewhat influenced by the Shadows.... I love BJ Wilson’s drumming for Procol Harum, and he definitely stated his greatest influence was Tony Meehan. It is a shame in a way, that the Shadows are so associated with Cliff Richard, as it potentially means people think less of them. |
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Have you ever watched Live at The Union Chapel it's one of my favorite DVDs. But I see the archives rate In Concert With The Danish National Concert Orchestra And Choir higher. I might have to get it to compare it.
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THANKS! Never heard of the Led Zeppelin 'Custard Pie' connection before but can definitely understand your assertion. Great! And don't get me started on Coltrane...
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