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Abstrakt

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Posted: March 26 2007 at 10:25

Camel, easily!

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Posted: March 26 2007 at 10:25

Yes, a tough choice indeed. A draw seems about fair. Camel suffer a little for me due to the lack of decent vocalist, whereas Renaissance have Annie. But then again, Camel have The Snow Goose.

Oh, I can't decide.

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Posted: March 26 2007 at 10:32

micky wrote:

martinprog77 wrote:

Cheesecakemouse wrote:

Renaissance, Camel is soooooooo overrated.

I think it is a case of Renaissance being underrated more than Camel being overrated. Those who like to rock will gravitate to Latimers great guitar playing.. but other than the 'rock' factor.. Renaissance aces Camel on all fronts. Better instrumentalist.. better lyrics.. more daring (ie prog) compositions and styles. Camel is a fine group..with some good albums even a great classic album of prog (Snow Goose) Renaissance had two classics plus what has to be considered amoung THE greatest of all live prog albums.

My problem with Renaissance is that too much was borrowed from composers that I consider greater than they. I really like the music, and very competent musicianship, but I don't think it terribly original or innovative.

Anyway, I vote for Camel based on Latimer's amazing vocal octave range. Hehe.

No vote from me really. I like both equally.

Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act

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Posted: March 26 2007 at 17:35

Logan wrote:

micky wrote:

martinprog77 wrote:

Cheesecakemouse wrote:

Renaissance, Camel is soooooooo overrated.

But thats the problem with Camel they borrow from everyone, they have no original ideas or any discernable innovation, Snowgoose to me sounds like a covers album, even parts of it I thought were original at one time turned out to be a blatant copy, I think Camel is a tribute band and not a prog band, they do brilliant covers but nothing original. To me Camel fits in with Triumverant and Staircastle, bands just imitating other bands.

Sorry Camel fans this is just what I feel

please don't take my opinion too personally.

Edited by Cheesecakemouse - March 26 2007 at 17:37

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Posted: March 26 2007 at 20:01

Camel

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Posted: March 26 2007 at 20:07

^ I had intended to mention how derivative Camel sounds. I hadn't realised they'd lifted other people's work (as Renaissance did many times -- and to be fair, they incorporated other's themes very nicely. Of course many Prog bands utilised "classical" compositions -- I use the term "classical" more broadly than as a distinct period). Parts of the Snow Goose did sound very familiar. One of my favourite themes in Prog is from Focus in "Hamburger Concerto" but that wasn't original either.

I think it's fair to say that neither band is that original. And though I question the assertion that Haslam has a five octave range as is stated on the band bio page (or at least I question the way the range is measured), I will concede that she has a stronger voice than Latimer.

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Posted: November 14 2007 at 15:19

Hmmmmmmmm, tough question. I like both, each of the band has a unique manner of playing . Renaissance has a stunning female voice and Camel has a smoothness that not many of their countrymans has. I voted for Renaissance.

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Posted: November 14 2007 at 17:06

I can't pick a fave between these 2...love them both, and which one I would choose to listen to depends on my mood.

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Posted: November 14 2007 at 19:30

Camel.

But they don't really have anything in common in my ears.

I also love Renaissance,

ProgBagel

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Posted: November 14 2007 at 22:47

Camel, one of the few bands that flourished in the 70's that are still putting out quality albums.

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Posted: November 14 2007 at 22:49

Camel.

Never got into Renaissance.

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Posted: November 14 2007 at 23:19

Renaissance. Definitely them for me. I don't know, I find them more appealing than Camel.

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Posted: November 15 2007 at 07:59

Camel for me no doubts about it. I like Renaissance but Camel are better and they are one of my favourite bands.

Edited by Philip - November 17 2007 at 06:46

Yorkie X

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Posted: November 15 2007 at 08:17

Both great musicaly but with Camel I have problems with the vocals (never liked their vocals much) so I went Renaissance who have no problems in this area

Poll Question: Which of this 2 Ambient Symphonic band preferred?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Camel	55	[67.07%]
Renaissance	27	[32.93%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted