Inspired "THE FINAL CUT" topic...

For myself Waters was always "the central cell" of Pink Floyd, "the band's stock and brains". We know that he has wrote the major part of the band's stuff, he always decided what conception they'd choose for the albums. Somebody says that e's rather weak as the bassist, but I won't agree. At least Roger Waters owns his recognizable and self-unique "pulsing" style of bass-guitar playing (the bightest examples are One Of These Days, Carefull With This Axe Eugene, Goodbye Cruel World) - you can hear its influences at Alan Parsons', Pendragon's, Eloy's and etc's albums...

The Wall is my personal album No1 by Pink Floyd, it's even at my Top 3 favorite albums of all the time! Maybe the cause is personal, because this album (and the movie) is almost about myself, my life, my nature maybe... And I also like The Final Cut - not less than Animals or Atom Heart Mother. Maybe it's not very "Proggy", but it contains so nice and soul-catching melodies, sincere (almost crying) vocals...

And I really like the solo-albums by Waters, even Radio KAOS with drum-machine - the record is very clever and intelligent - it only takes some time to get a habit... The same thing with very inspiring THE PROS AND CONS OF HITCH-HICHING - I think that's the best guitar work by Clapton ever! And of course the geberal masterpiece by Roger Waters is his amazing album AMUSED TO DEATH with Jeff Beck on guitar!!!! Counting the whole PF+solo albums collection, AMUSED TO DEATH is the record #2 for me, with its so original general idea and conception, brilliant arrangements, power in heavier tracks and wonderfull melodies in calmer tracks. Anyway you need to be impressed by the album as the whole thing...

I'm far not a big fan of post-Waters albums. They really have a lack of originality, sincerity, intelligentce. This is a good music but no more...

And about the last of my questions: honestly, I even don't know how positive or negative was the Waters's decision to quit the band. But maybe he simply couldn't realize his ideas being the PF's participant? At least I'm sure that Waters were more necessary for Pink Floyd than Pink Floyd - for Waters...

nope, nothing after Animals really appeals to me. I'm not sure why...it just seems that they lost the originality and experimental quality.

-Really?! But there's a lot of different experiments on THE WALL, as with the sound, as with composing of music...

3) How are you about post-Waters albums by Pink Floyd?

I'm going to check out Division Bell, as a number of people really enjoy it, but I disliked Momentary Lapse as too glossy and unchallenging, too superficial.

-I also find it too glossy and uninspiring... So, I won't suggest you to buy THE DIVISION BELL when you're not impress A MOMENTARY LAPSE...

Waters was the brains of PF. I mean , even if Gilmour "wrote by himself" Wish You Were Here (the song), Time and so on so forth, why did Gilmour's lyrics go downhill so steeply after Waters' departure?

This may get me crucified

Emperor wrote: Well, since 1983-1984 many fans talk about the leadership of Waters in Pink Floyd and about his sudden quit off the band... So I'd like to ask some questions to Prog-Colleagues:   1) Do you like the latest Waters-Era PF's albums (The Wall + The Final Cut) or not? Why? yes, they are as good, but different 2) Do you like the solo-albums by Waters or not? Which of those albums do you prefer? Why? yes, amused to death is as good as any pink floyd album 3) How are you about post-Waters albums by Pink Floyd? i love them: they are very atmospheric, and they use well the new technologies 4) Was the Waters's quit in 1983 positive or negative accident in musical/creative sense? VERY positive!   Thank you

look, if you think the only weak pink floyd was with syd barrett, then i think we can make good friends!

Emperor wrote: Well, since 1983-1984 many fans talk about the leadership of Waters in Pink Floyd and about his sudden quit off the band... So I'd like to ask some questions to Prog-Colleagues: 1) Do you like the latest Waters-Era PF's albums (The Wall + The Final Cut) or not? Why? 2) Do you like the solo-albums by Waters or not? Which of those albums do you prefer? Why? 3) How are you about post-Waters albums by Pink Floyd? 4) Was the Waters's quit in 1983 positive or negative accident in musical/creative sense? Thank you

1) I like The Wall. However, I have to be in a certain mood to listen to it. I dislike The Final Cut. Too much water's in the glass.

2) I prefer The Pros and Cons Of Hitch Hiking, I guess. The others I can live without.

3) I can listen to A Momentary Lapse Of Reason. The Division Bell? Roger's angst is missing and needed badly.

4) Negative. They needed each other even though Roger is too stubborn to admit it.

greenback wrote: look, if you think the only weak pink floyd was with syd barrett, then i think we can make good friends!

I am sure we can be good friends without my confirmation of it

I like THE PIPER too