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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2008 at 13:36
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Hell yeah I'm joining, but for the record i detest emo, mainly because of emo kids. I think Drum n Bass should be added to that list also, same with Reggae. I love rap, especially 2pac and Eminem. Punk is also great, although i can't really forgive it for destroying prog , but the important thing is to try and understand why the fans like it that type of music embrace the reason.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2008 at 16:01
Originally posted by kibble_alex kibble_alex wrote:

. Punk is also great, although i can't really forgive it for destroying prog ,



"Prog" destroyed itself, it is a hard thing to mantain you know.

"Punk" is cool exclusive from anything else, raw emotion and aggression with a message to boot.

You know what is also cool? Chris Gaines - check him out
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 01:56
Opinions on metalcore anyone?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 03:50
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Opinions on metalcore anyone?


Bargh, I cannot stand the stuff. It's far too trendy for my ears, what with the obnoxious down-tuning, constant pinch-harmonics, breakdowns, and throaty vocals. Although I can enjoy some of the bands who are on the more metal side of the spectrum, and bands like Poison the Well who prefer emo melodies and experimentation to breakdowns...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 07:21
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Opinions on metalcore anyone?


Oh no! My friend loves that stuff, but, from what I've heard, it's so formulaic! Uninteresting metal, same ol' breakdown, and...wait for it...melodic chorus! I think it only really consists of a few bands, though, doesn't it? I give the genre a go quite often, because my friend always says OOH OOH YOU GOTTA LISTEN TO THIS, but I've never liked it (so far) :/

Mind you, it's not as bad as a lot of those "deathcore" bands like Twitch of the Deathnerve. Most of them only aim to stick a "bree bree" in there a zillion times and the saaaaame breakdown. I like some death metal, but I've never liked deathcore. It's just not aiming to get anywhere, I think it's mainly for people who just want to be in a band for the fun of it. And shout bree bree. The drummers are often pretty good, though! I saw Job for a Cowboy supporting someone, and I felt sorry for the drummer. He was a much better musician than the rest of the band.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 10:19
Originally posted by reality reality wrote:

Originally posted by kibble_alex kibble_alex wrote:

. Punk is also great, although i can't really forgive it for destroying prog ,



"Prog" destroyed itself, it is a hard thing to mantain you know.

"Punk" is cool exclusive from anything else, raw emotion and aggression with a message to boot.

You know what is also cool? Chris Gaines - check him out
 
Prog is destroyed?
 
Oops sad news if it's true, lets tell the hundreds of bands that send their submission to Prog Archives that they don't exist. Today Prog is more alive than Punk, at least real Punk, not all the hybrids that people call Punk today.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 10:22
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
Prog is destroyed?
 
Oops sad news if it's true, lets tell the hundreds of bands that send their submission to Prog Archives that they don't exist. Today Prog is more alive than Punk, at least real Punk, not all the hybrids that people call Punk today.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 15:09
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by reality reality wrote:

Originally posted by kibble_alex kibble_alex wrote:

. Punk is also great, although i can't really forgive it for destroying prog ,



"Prog" destroyed itself, it is a hard thing to mantain you know.

"Punk" is cool exclusive from anything else, raw emotion and aggression with a message to boot.

You know what is also cool? Chris Gaines - check him out
 
Prog is destroyed?
 
Oops sad news if it's true, lets tell the hundreds of bands that send their submission to Prog Archives that they don't exist. Today Prog is more alive than Punk, at least real Punk, not all the hybrids that people call Punk today.
 
Iván
 
Re-quoted for re-truth...
 
Reality, most of your posts are not too favorable towards prog... May I ask if you're in the right place??Confused There are 394873948370 forums out there where you don't have to love prog you know...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 15:49
It's possible to love prog but also consider it dead or destroyed. Like me, for example! I'm one of those strict 70's kind of prog guy, but I really love that stuff (which is why I'm here because none of the other boards I go to have ever heard of true progressive rock).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 23:30
Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

It's possible to love prog but also consider it dead or destroyed. Like me, for example! I'm one of those strict 70's kind of prog guy, but I really love that stuff (which is why I'm here because none of the other boards I go to have ever heard of true progressive rock).
 
If your nick is Avantgardehead, I guess you are an Avant fan.
 
Isn't the most trascendental Avant Prog development a  post 70's phenomenon?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2008 at 01:09
I guess I can be called open-minded because I don't care about what genre of music I'm listening to at any certain time.  We had the Blue Scholars (hip hop/rap, but in a good way) come to our school and I was able to enjoy myself just as much as any other concert.  Sure it's music in 4/4 and it's sampled from other artists and there's not much besides him talking/rapping, but I was able to overlook that nonsense and just enjoy the sounds and messages they had.

While I'm at it, I guess I could recommend the Blue Scholars to people now that I've mentioned them.  They're a local band for me, representing the Seattle area.  They play hip-hop, but they have good and important messages in their music and some of their stuff is pretty tasteful.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2008 at 04:29
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

It's possible to love prog but also consider it dead or destroyed. Like me, for example! I'm one of those strict 70's kind of prog guy, but I really love that stuff (which is why I'm here because none of the other boards I go to have ever heard of true progressive rock).
 
If your nick is Avantgardehead, I guess you are an Avant fan.
 
Isn't the most trascendental Avant Prog development a  post 70's phenomenon?
 
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Funny that the majority of my avant collection is 90's and beyond. I actually don't like much of the 70's avant stuff at all. But then again I *gasp* don't really consider avant-garde as being progressive, per se, but that's a whole other argument.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2008 at 08:51
The best Avant-Prog was the RIO stuff from the 70's, in my opinion. I've checked out a couple of modern bands but not really liked them. Nimal and L'Ensemble Rayé being to exceptions.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2008 at 13:38
Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

It's possible to love prog but also consider it dead or destroyed. Like me, for example! I'm one of those strict 70's kind of prog guy, but I really love that stuff (which is why I'm here because none of the other boards I go to have ever heard of true progressive rock).
 
Mmm... in that case you're a necrophiliac...LOL
 
I don't think it's dead anyway. For two reasons:
 
1. Well, the amoun of prog music being released today in every genre.
 
2. Music doesn't die. Maybe TRENDS die, maybe FASHIONS die, but I don't think music dies. Bach himself died exactly 258 years ago, yet his music will probably outlive you, me, and most prog. So... yes, the prog trend died, but what Genesis and all of them recorded will live forever. And saying "prog is dead" repeatedly in a prog forum doesn't look like an opinion but like an attitude man, not yours but from other members. Even if we agree it's dead (which is not), instead of crying because of that let's enjoy the fact that we can enjoy it and buy much more prog today than it was available in its heyday.
 
By the way, i'm dead. LOL
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2008 at 15:45
There's this weird solitude that comes from listening to 70's prog when you have the mindset that this type of music isn't made anymore. It takes me to a completely different world than anything else I listen to....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2008 at 17:12
Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

There's this weird solitude that comes from listening to 70's prog when you have the mindset that this type of music isn't made anymore. It takes me to a completely different world than anything else I listen to....


I get that with Early Music Tongue In my mind 70s music is still contemporary :o
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