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Visitor13 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
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I'm not joining.
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The Pessimist ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
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Hell yeah I'm joining, but for the record i detest emo, mainly because of emo kids. I think Drum n Bass should be added to that list also, same with Reggae. I love rap, especially 2pac and Eminem. Punk is also great, although i can't really forgive it for destroying prog
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reality ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2006 Status: Offline Points: 318 |
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"Prog" destroyed itself, it is a hard thing to mantain you know. "Punk" is cool exclusive from anything else, raw emotion and aggression with a message to boot. You know what is also cool? Chris Gaines - check him out ![]() |
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Opinions on metalcore anyone?
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Avantgardehead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
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Bargh, I cannot stand the stuff. It's far too trendy for my ears, what with the obnoxious down-tuning, constant pinch-harmonics, breakdowns, and throaty vocals. Although I can enjoy some of the bands who are on the more metal side of the spectrum, and bands like Poison the Well who prefer emo melodies and experimentation to breakdowns... |
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popeyethecat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 04 2008 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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Oh no! My friend loves that stuff, but, from what I've heard, it's so formulaic! Uninteresting metal, same ol' breakdown, and...wait for it...melodic chorus! I think it only really consists of a few bands, though, doesn't it? I give the genre a go quite often, because my friend always says OOH OOH YOU GOTTA LISTEN TO THIS, but I've never liked it (so far) :/ Mind you, it's not as bad as a lot of those "deathcore" bands like Twitch of the Deathnerve. Most of them only aim to stick a "bree bree" in there a zillion times and the saaaaame breakdown. I like some death metal, but I've never liked deathcore. It's just not aiming to get anywhere, I think it's mainly for people who just want to be in a band for the fun of it. And shout bree bree. The drummers are often pretty good, though! I saw Job for a Cowboy supporting someone, and I felt sorry for the drummer. He was a much better musician than the rest of the band. Edited by popeyethecat - April 15 2008 at 07:22 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Prog is destroyed?
Oops sad news if it's true, lets tell the hundreds of bands that send their submission to Prog Archives that they don't exist. Today Prog is more alive than Punk, at least real Punk, not all the hybrids that people call Punk today.
Iván
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Philéas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
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Quoted for truth. |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Re-quoted for re-truth...
Reality, most of your posts are not too favorable towards prog... May I ask if you're in the right place??
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Avantgardehead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
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It's possible to love prog but also consider it dead or destroyed. Like me, for example! I'm one of those strict 70's kind of prog guy, but I really love that stuff (which is why I'm here because none of the other boards I go to have ever heard of true progressive rock).
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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If your nick is Avantgardehead, I guess you are an Avant fan.
Isn't the most trascendental Avant Prog development a post 70's phenomenon?
Iván
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asimplemistake ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 840 |
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I guess I can be called open-minded because I don't care about what genre of music I'm listening to at any certain time. We had the Blue Scholars (hip hop/rap, but in a good way) come to our school and I was able to enjoy myself just as much as any other concert. Sure it's music in 4/4 and it's sampled from other artists and there's not much besides him talking/rapping, but I was able to overlook that nonsense and just enjoy the sounds and messages they had.
While I'm at it, I guess I could recommend the Blue Scholars to people now that I've mentioned them. They're a local band for me, representing the Seattle area. They play hip-hop, but they have good and important messages in their music and some of their stuff is pretty tasteful. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wz79goWQrYU |
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Avantgardehead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
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Funny that the majority of my avant collection is 90's and beyond. I actually don't like much of the 70's avant stuff at all. But then again I *gasp* don't really consider avant-garde as being progressive, per se, but that's a whole other argument. |
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Philéas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
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The best Avant-Prog was the RIO stuff from the 70's, in my opinion. I've checked out a couple of modern bands but not really liked them. Nimal and L'Ensemble Rayé being to exceptions.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Mmm... in that case you're a necrophiliac...
![]() I don't think it's dead anyway. For two reasons:
1. Well, the amoun of prog music being released today in every genre.
2. Music doesn't die. Maybe TRENDS die, maybe FASHIONS die, but I don't think music dies. Bach himself died exactly 258 years ago, yet his music will probably outlive you, me, and most prog. So... yes, the prog trend died, but what Genesis and all of them recorded will live forever. And saying "prog is dead" repeatedly in a prog forum doesn't look like an opinion but like an attitude man, not yours but from other members. Even if we agree it's dead (which is not), instead of crying because of that let's enjoy the fact that we can enjoy it and buy much more prog today than it was available in its heyday.
By the way, i'm dead.
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Avantgardehead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
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There's this weird solitude that comes from listening to 70's prog when you have the mindset that this type of music isn't made anymore. It takes me to a completely different world than anything else I listen to....
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popeyethecat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 04 2008 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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