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lucas
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 14:32 |
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and Mozart's requiem is far from the "poppiest" classical music I ever heard...
I think it's rather the lack of knowledge of his music that leads to vote for another composer.
And I am tired of those attacks on "pop" music. There is a lot of pop music that is brilliant, while there is a lot of prog rock that is pure bulls**t.
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BaldJean
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 17:25 |
I am fine with voting for a different composer. I am not fine with calling Mozart "pop" in comparison to the others. does the person who wrote this know that a) Mozart was the first free-lancing composer (all others worked for some Noblemen) and b) that he had problems selling his works, simply because it was not what the people wanted. that's just the opposite of "pop"
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presdoug
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 17:51 |
no one has mentioned the early Romantic genius from Germany , Carl Maria von Weber he was related to Mozart, was an early musical hero of Berlioz's, and , well, most importantly, he was a contemporary of Beethoven's and the next german composer in importance to Beethoven during Beethoven's lifetime he wrote some lovely operas, and opera overtures, overlooked are his solo piano and piano concerto works, which are lovely and quite striking would highly recommend the piano concertos with Roland Keller or Peter Rosel on the piano, and the solo works for piano with Hans Kann
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The T
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 18:12 |
lucas wrote:
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and Mozart's requiem is far from the "poppiest" classical music I ever heard...
I think it's rather the lack of knowledge of his music that leads to vote for another composer.
And I am tired of those attacks on "pop" music. There is a lot of pop music that is brilliant, while there is a lot of prog rock that is pure bulls**t.
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The T
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 18:14 |
BaldJean wrote:
I am fine with voting for a different composer. I am not fine with calling Mozart "pop" in comparison to the others. does the person who wrote this know that a) Mozart was the first free-lancing composer (all others worked for some Noblemen) and b) that he had problems selling his works, simply because it was not what the people wanted. that's just the opposite of "pop" |
Exactly. Calling "pop" music like the Operas, like the piano concertos (probably the best in the genre, none has surpassed them yet), the choral masterworks like the Requiem (my favorite music ever) and his last 7 symphonies (especially the last 4) is just showing deep, unsustainable ignorance.
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JakoCba
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 11:43 |
1.-Beethoven
2.-Mahler
4.-Schönberg
5.-Debussy
6.-Stockhausen
7.-Mozart
Edited by JakoCba - October 11 2010 at 11:46
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Varon
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:15 |
progrules wrote:
:) I'm not surprised Stravinsky leads this poll and Mozart is way below since first mentioned is the eclectic progger amongst the classical composers and Mozart more like the pop artist (without wanting to be disrespectful here). |
Do you know that Grieg ( & Tchaikovsky+++ as well) considered Mozart the Greatest Composer with deepest music . Stravinsky would have been shocked if he had seen this poll . +++ on the classical music forums (and I saw really a lot of them) Mozart is ALWAYS in top 3
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 12:31 |
I am fond of Grieg, especially because of the Peer Gynt suites and his piano concerto, but some other lesser known works as well.
I like Rachmaninov especially for his four piano concertos and some more.
Oh well, from most well known composers there are works that I really like. I don't have my favorites as with prog, my taste is broader as it comes to classical music, but I have a slight preference for the romantic era, middle period especially.
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 14:33 |
The T wrote:
Mahler's 6th, 1st, 5th and 8th are my favorites. Bernstein rules them. |
Don't discount Tilson Thomas' version of the 6th--I prefer it, at least.
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stonebeard
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 14:54 |
progrules wrote:
:) I'm not surprised Stravinsky leads this poll and Mozart is way below since first mentioned is the eclectic progger amongst the classical composers and Mozart more like the pop artist (without wanting to be disrespectful here). And so it's no surprise that progfans vote like this. |
And it is also, sadly, no surprise prog fans would make this connection or support the less popular over the more talented.
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genbanks
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 15:23 |
lucas wrote:
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and Mozart's requiem is far from the "poppiest" classical music I ever heard...
I think it's rather the lack of knowledge of his music that leads to vote for another composer.
And I am tired of those attacks on "pop" music. There is a lot of pop music that is brilliant, while there is a lot of prog rock that is pure bulls**t.
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 Good post
Mozart is not my cup of tea but I must recognize he was a great musician. Agree with you too about the attacks over pop music. Nothing is absloutely black or white.
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presdoug
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 15:45 |
Bitterblogger wrote:
The T wrote:
Mahler's 6th, 1st, 5th and 8th are my favorites. Bernstein rules them. |
Don't discount Tilson Thomas' version of the 6th--I prefer it, at least. |
i would love to hear the very first recording of the 6th , conducted by F Charles Adler from around 1950-anybody out there heard it? Adler is one of my very fave Mahler conductors, and is overlooked (i have, love, and would recommend to anybody his recordings of the 1st and 3rd)
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The T
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 16:04 |
stonebeard wrote:
progrules wrote:
:) I'm not surprised Stravinsky leads this poll and Mozart is way below since first mentioned is the eclectic progger amongst the classical composers and Mozart more like the pop artist (without wanting to be disrespectful here). And so it's no surprise that progfans vote like this. |
And it is also, sadly, no surprise prog fans would make this connection or support the less popular over the more talented.
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 14:57 |
I wanted to vote for Ralph Vaughan Williams
But he is not on the list
Bummer
Edited by Green Shield Stamp - October 13 2010 at 14:58
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 19:30 |
Prog rock music has structurally more in common with the music of the Baroque and of the late Romantic/Modern era than with the Classical era, so it does not surprise me that their protagonists Bach and Stravinsky are in the lead. They are also my favourites (with a slight preference for Stravinsky)  .
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