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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 11:13 | ||
Sure post-prog is absurd, just as new prog is absurd - these are marketing terms at best and lazy journalism at worse.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 11:31 | ||
So please tell me, what will we consider Post Prog?
Your perspective is one of many, I believe that the term is absurd an inaccurate, I can understand post war, post anything that has ended. Now, the term Post Modernism for example, was created by John Watkins Chapman to break with Modernism, most precisely with impressionism, he honestly believed Modernism was dead,the wrong usage of it by many people doesn't make it correct. Post Futurism is an absolute contradiction, but again, it's a term coined by Vivian Sobchack to split from post modernism. All unnecessary and contradictory terms IMO. Prog exists, it's vital today, how in hell can we say that there is something called Post Prog? Iván
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 11:47 | ||
But as Scott said, there is a whole thread about this, why Highjack Half Apple?
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Svetonio
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 12:06 | ||
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 12:38 | ||
Why are you even arguing these points with me? I have never said Post Prog exists, I don't think it does, just as I don't think New Prog exists. HOWEVER: Once a term goes from being a decriptive adjective to a noun then all relevance to the meaning of the words is void, Progressive Rock does not progress, Symphonic Rock isn't symphonic and Arena Rock isn't exclusive to arenas ( okay one step too far), and Post-Rock, Post-Punk and Post-metal are not what comes after Rock, Punk or Metal - they are just marketing names for movements within Rock for styles or attitudes of music, nothing more, nothing less. The wrong usage of a word by many people as a name of something means diddly-squat and is perfectly correct - whether that is contradictory or unnecessary in your opinion is not relevant, it's just the name of something - my car is called a Hyundai Tiburon in the USA - guess what - it's not a shark!
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lazland
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13274 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 12:49 | ||
I move that we start a post thread thread for those defunct issues we would love to re-flog to death.
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
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rushfan4
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Online Points: 65954 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 12:57 | ||
Hmm...and to think that I thought it was called Post rock because the music was immobile and didn't go anywhere like a fence post.
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Smurph
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 11 2012 Location: Columbus&NYC Status: Offline Points: 3167 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 14:44 | ||
I'm gonna hijack this thread right now. New topic.
Ivan. Who the fark is in the daisy costume and where can I listen to whatever music they are playing right now?
Post whatever. Stupid. Nowadays it seems like Post implies lots of ambience, build-up, and lots of ripping off Godspeed! You Black Emperor. Except normal prog already does that, so post-prog doesnt make sense to me.
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 17995 |
Posted: March 08 2012 at 14:48 | ||
And, hell, just as prog in the first place is absurd
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Sheavy
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 17:18 | ||
What? Rock isn't extinct an extinct genre. NVM, should have finished reading the rest of the posts.
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