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Topic: Question about Gustav Holst the Planets Posted: March 26 2010 at 15:00
I am Listening to this wonderfull album I bought which included this calssical masterpiece then it was time for Jupiter - the bringer of jollity and I could not get it out of my mind that I have heard this song somewhere else in some occation, then my question sounds like this
in what extent have this song been used in popular music and what bands have incorporated a section/part of this piece. thats my problem i have it on my tip of the tounge - two-three of my guesses wil be Mac Gyver theme, some sort of SCI-Fi sereis (Stargete SG-1, or somthing like that, Dune) ore Mannfred Mann Joybringer.
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Posted: March 26 2010 at 17:14
The middle section of jupiter, a work by composer Gustav Holst, is a very pompous, solemn section that was very popular in England as a sort of "third" anthem, after the actual national anthem and Edward Elgar's Pomp And Circumstance March # 1 (the middle section). You might have heard that section used in movies or in events depicting something solemn, even royal. It's a majestic moment of great melody, encapsulated by a more heroic, brass-dominated first and last section.
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Posted: March 27 2010 at 08:40
Jupiter is one of my favourite pieces from the suite. Very uplifting. Venus is probably my favourite piece of classical music. That piece really moves me.
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Posted: March 27 2010 at 10:23
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I am Listening to this wonderfull album I bought which included this calssical masterpiece then it was time for Jupiter - the bringer of jollity and I could not get it out of my mind that I have heard this song somewhere else in some occation, then my question sounds like this
in what extent have this song been used in popular music and what bands have incorporated a section/part of this piece. thats my problem i have it on my tip of the tounge - two-three of my guesses wil be Mac Gyver theme, some sort of SCI-Fi sereis (Stargete SG-1, or somthing like that, Dune) ore Mannfred Mann Joybringer.
please someone this is bugging me
Manfred Mann's Joybringer is Jupiter and was the only officially (by his daughter Imogen Holst) approved "pop" interpretation of the Planets that I am aware of ... Tomita's version of the whole suite was famously withdrawn after a complaint by Imogen and has only been re-released since her death.
Several bands have used the Mars "riff" in their music.
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Posted: March 27 2010 at 12:28
The middle section is a hymn as well ("I vow to thee my country") and Keith Emerson used it (uncredited, tut tut) on his recent album with Marc Bonilla.
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Posted: March 27 2010 at 16:43
As far as original orchestral versions go , i would highly recommend the first recording- done acoustically in 1923 and conducted by the composer. This is not to be confused with an early electrical recording with the composer conducting in 1925-6
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Posted: March 27 2010 at 17:32
presdoug wrote:
As far as original orchestral versions go , i would highly recommend the first recording- done acoustically in 1923 and conducted by the composer. This is not to be confused with an early electrical recording with the composer conducting in 1925-6
The Bernstein and the Karajan's are great. And the Levine with the Chicago Symph.
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Posted: March 27 2010 at 17:47
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presdoug wrote:
As far as original orchestral versions go , i would highly recommend the first recording- done acoustically in 1923 and conducted by the composer. This is not to be confused with an early electrical recording with the composer conducting in 1925-6
The Bernstein and the Karajan's are great. And the Levine with the Chicago Symph.
I like the Sir Adrian Boult/LPO version - not that I've heard that many as a comparison.
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Posted: April 04 2010 at 22:30
Frank Zappa used a bit of it in Invocation & Ritual Dance Of The Young Pumpkin from Absolutely free.
My high school also did a killer version of it back when I was a senior, but I doubt you'd know that one.
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Posted: April 06 2010 at 14:49
chopper wrote:
The middle section is a hymn as well ("I vow to thee my country") and Keith Emerson used it (uncredited, tut tut) on his recent album with Marc Bonilla.
to be fair he would have expected it to be recognised my most people
and interestingly he does credit Alberto ''Toccata'' Ginastera for another peice
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Posted: April 06 2010 at 15:01
Jupiter was used at the theme for one of the Rugby world cups
Manfred Mann recorded an album in 1987 'Masque' which includes an updated version of Joybringer as well as several other interpretations of peices from The Planets. Quite a jolly album which also includes a killer version of Paul Wellers 'What you give is what you get (start)' among other things not connected with Holst.
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Posted: April 07 2010 at 06:29
richardh wrote:
chopper wrote:
The middle section is a hymn as well ("I vow to thee my country") and Keith Emerson used it (uncredited, tut tut) on his recent album with Marc Bonilla.
to be fair he would have expected it to be recognised my most people
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Posted: April 07 2010 at 15:07
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richardh wrote:
chopper wrote:
The middle section is a hymn as well ("I vow to thee my country") and Keith Emerson used it (uncredited, tut tut) on his recent album with Marc Bonilla.
to be fair he would have expected it to be recognised my most people
Agreed, but what about the royalties?
They must have been paid, otherwise the Estate would have called Messrs Sue, Grabbit, and Runne to sue him, as they did a few years ago with the composers of the soundtrack to Gladiator for plagiarism.
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