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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 16:49
Ouch. I did just find out that Firefox's find function is useful in finding plagiarized reviews. I agree that his ratings are completely illogical, I was just mentioning the fact that E-Re's ratings are probably skewed anyway, but the plagiarized reviews, now that is on a whole different level. On the Renaissance review he gives it 5*, but the review he plagiarized gave it only two.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 16:33
Well-spotted, but he actually has two reviews and both are plagiarised.  His Misplaced Childhood review is plagiarised from a review by King By-Tor (look in body of the KBT review) as well as the Renaissance review he plagiarised from Joolz.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 16:14
No, serious problem with this guy. I checked out his only review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=184043

and directly to the left of it on the album page... http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=73525

That's direct plagiarism. He only wrote one review, and he didn't even write it at that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 15:49
If I were to take the music on its own I would give it a five (and for my enjoyment), but I could understand someone rating it lower because it's a) just not to their taste and b) it's rehashing music that's already been released.  Like many, I was familiar with the music from live performances, even if this is rather different, and it refers back to music released on much earlier albums.  It's not really innovative, but I love the execution and it does have good twists.  In some ways I could see Magma fanboys being harder on it.  I think it's a really lovely album, and has great groove.  A very accomplished, and well-nuanced production.  Some will complain it's too much more of the same old, same old.

In Nemec's case, I'm sure it's different.  He'd probably give every Magma album a one if he heard them.  Anyway, an unreliable rater -- one of those who would be prone to rate his favourite bands' albums all five and all ones that he isn't a fan of one.  It's interesting to see how he gave Selling England a one while the Genesis influneced band Marillion he gave all five ratings (though the Genesis influence is not strong in most of those I expect, especially the Hogarth era).  He can go against the grain if he likes by giving Hybris a one, Los Jaivas' album a one, and Trisector, and all those Pink Floyd albums a one, but I certainly wouldn't defer to his musical opinions. See his ratings:

5 starsALAS Alas (rating only)
5 starsANAMOR Imaginacje(rating only)
5 starsEYE 2 EYE After All...(rating only)
5 starsTHE GOURISHANKAR 2nd Hands(rating only)
5 starsTHE GOURISHANKAR Close Grip(rating only)
5 starsMARILLION Afraid of Sunlight (rating only)
5 starsMARILLION Brave(rating only)
5 starsMARILLION Brave Live 2002(rating only)
5 starsMARILLION Happiness Is The Road(rating only)
5 starsMARILLION Marbles(rating only)
5 starsMARILLION Marbles Live(rating only)
5 starsMARILLION Misplaced Childhood | review
5 starsMARILLION Recital Of The Script (rating only)
5 starsTHE MARS VOLTA Octahedron(rating only)
5 starsOZRIC TENTACLES Arborescence(rating only)
5 starsOZRIC TENTACLES Curious Corn(rating only)
5 starsOZRIC TENTACLES Jurassic Shift (rating only)
5 starsOZRIC TENTACLES Spirals In Hyperspace(rating only)
5 starsJEAN-LUC PONTY The Atacama Experience(rating only)
5 starsRENAISSANCE Unplugged - Live at The Academy of Music, Philadelphia USA | review
5 starsSYLVAN Force Of Gravity(rating only)
5 starsTANGERINE DREAM Flame(rating only)
5 starsYES Close To The Edge(rating only)
5 starsYES Going for the One(rating only)
1 starsANGLAGARD Hybris(rating only)
1 starsCAMEL Coming Of Age (DVD)(rating only)
1 starsCOLLAGE Moonshine(rating only)
1 starsGENESIS Selling England By The Pound(rating only)
1 starsGENTLE GIANT Giant On The Box(rating only)
1 starsIQ Stage(rating only)
1 starsLOS JAIVAS Alturas de Macchu Picchu(rating only)
1 starsKAMELOT One Cold Winter's Night(rating only)
1 starsMAGMA Ëmëhntëhtt-Rê(rating only)
1 starsPINK FLOYD Animals(rating only)
1 starsPINK FLOYD Dark Side Of The Moon(rating only)
1 starsPINK FLOYD Live At Pompeii(rating only)
1 starsPINK FLOYD Wish You Were Here(rating only)
1 starsPORCUPINE TREE Arriving Somewhere...(rating only)
1 starsVAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR Trisector(rating only)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 09:13
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Err, didn't know where else to put this. I know there is no account for taste, and you should rate albums however you like, but this still looks suspicious:
 
 
Talk about failure to find a middle ground...

Good thing that ratings have weight just 1, reviews are 5 times stronger. Mighty (flexing, flexing)

It looks suspicious, agreed.


To be fair, the last rated album (E-Re), has 13 5* and his 1* rating. However, if the album is really that good I don't know why someone would think it is only worth one star.

Note: I know that the ratings are partially due to some fanboyism, but still, after being rated so highly you would expect people to see something good in it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 04:47
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Err, didn't know where else to put this. I know there is no account for taste, and you should rate albums however you like, but this still looks suspicious:
 
 
Talk about failure to find a middle ground...

Good thing that ratings have weight just 1, reviews are 5 times stronger. Mighty (flexing, flexing)

It looks suspicious, agreed.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 04:25
Err, didn't know where else to put this. I know there is no account for taste, and you should rate albums however you like, but this still looks suspicious:
 
 
Talk about failure to find a middle ground...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 17:34
^wtf? I've always thought Colombia was a US state (I don't know, why), and Columbia a country...sorry, guys LOL 

Edited by Diaby - May 05 2009 at 17:36
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 17:04

Columbia

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not to be confused with Colombia, the country in South America.
 

Columbia (name) is a poetic name for America (in the sense of "European colonies in the New World") and the feminine personification of the United States of America; it has inspired the names of many persons, places, objects, institutions, and companies.

also see: Colony of British Columbia

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 16:58
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

How many fans does Pink Floyd have in Columbia?

 
 
(the country not the record label)
 
What country is Columbia?? Confused
 
 
(because Colombia is obviously not what we're talking about....) 
 
If you don't joke, it's a South-American country, which has borders with Panama, Ecuador, Venezuela and Brazil (I hope I'm fully right).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 16:48
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

How many fans does Pink Floyd have in Columbia?

 
 
(the country not the record label)
 
What country is Columbia?? Confused
 
 
(because Colombia is obviously not what we're talking about....) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 15:48
Of course there's a definitive pattern here. The perfect solution would be if the admins inspected the accounts on a regular basis and marked spam accordingly. Of course you can simply delete them, but then the spammers would simply try again. Rather than that ... let them submit their ratings and think that they have an effect.

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 15:25

How many fans does Pink Floyd have in Columbia?

 
 
(the country not the record label)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 14:33
Excellant work and it reiterates the need for "weighted" ratings based on status with the site and whether "rating only" or review included. 
I hope these accounts, if deemed manipulation by Admin, will be swiftly deleted.  I can't believe some people have nothing better to do with their lives than worry about the placement of albums in a list. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2009 at 09:53

there's clearly a case of an angry pink floyd fan.

IMO there should be two different rankings: one that only counts ratings with reviews and second that counts both ratings with and with out reviews. that would minimize all the mess that such a manipulations might cause.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2009 at 14:32
Still going

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23877
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23859

Join, post their one-star and five-star reviews, slope off and are never seen again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 18:09
Well, you know better than me...maybe it's an organized action of the Columbian PF fanclub? Confused
It is surely curious how well loved PF is by all these users...And especially curious how Phaedra of Tangerine Dream turns in 5* many times...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 17:43
Three of them share two common IP addresses - reasonings behind my suspicion of others is slightly deeper in that they all share the same ISP and their activities never interleave but reveal a distinct chronological pattern,.. as I say - it is a suspicion and I cannot prove it emphatically.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 17:18
Looking at those review listings, I think you have a strong case for users 23470 and 23758, they are probably the same culprit as the one I started the thread about. The rest is not as clear-cut, since they also rate some 2,3 and 4*.
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