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    Posted: March 12 2005 at 13:19

sorted in order of preference:

 

 

  • 1Symphonic Prog
  • 2Prog Folk
  • 3Neo Progressive
  • 4Italian Prog
  • 5Canterbury Scene
  • 6Fusion
  • 7Zeuhl
  • 8Space/Experimental
  • 9Progressive Metal
  • 10Rock-in-Opposition
  • 11Art Rock
  • 12Kraut Rock

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  • 1. Neo progressive
            Arena, Marillion, Pendragon, IQ
  • 2. Symphonic prog
            Yes, Genesis, Camel
  • 3. Art rock
            Supertramp, Rush, Peter Gabriel
  • 4. Space experimental
            Pink Floyd, Eloy, Gong
  • 5. Prog metal
            Symphony X, Angra, Threshold, Ayreon, Uriah Heep
  • 6. Prog Folk
            Jethro Tull, Moody Blues (not really folk, but I always labelled them as such)
  • 7. Zeuhl
            Magma, only Zeuhl band I really know
  • 8. Italian prog
            Banco, PFM, know to little from them, still under evaluation
  • 9. Canterbury
            Caravan
  • 10. Fusion
            Know to little about
  • 11. krautrock
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    I try not to pay attention to the subgenres 
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    Symphonic, Folk, Canterbury, Kraut, Space, Italian, RIO, Fusion, Art Rock, Prog Metal, Zeuhl, Neo Prog

    something like that

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    		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2005 at 17:21

    Sub-genders are very taboo.they get very mis used.

     

    Ifind bands like ELP,GENESIS,King Crimson,YES etc to be true prog.

     

    I mainly listern to bands such as Ian Carr/Nucleus,Ben,Keith Tippett band.I class these as progressive jazz.

    I also bash a lot of Spring,Cressida etc which i class as pastorial prog.

    It's actually impossible to place a style to a certain band.

     
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    The subgenres are indeed misleading and IMO pretty stupid. It started in the US since most kids over there had no idea about progressive rock anyway. Unfortunately the press in GB took the lead up and copied the subgenres. So now we have kids talking about Neo-Prog and Italian Prog against Metal Prog. For Christs sake...dont use this subgenre classification as a guide, you'll end up knowing less than before..

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    I don't have a preference for one subgenre or another but my favourite bands according to their subgenre are :

    fusion (jazz-rock or metal) : Bruford, Brand X, Dixie Dregs, Spastic Ink, Planet X, Borne, Gotic, SBB, Deus ex Machina

    Symphonic prog : Genesis, Yes, Camel, Sebastian Hardie/Windchase/Mario Millo, Klaatu, Gordon Giltrap, Gryphon, Spock's beard, Shaun Guerin

    Neo-Prog : Marillion, IQ/Martin Orford, Colin Bass, Clepsydra, It bites, Big big train, Saga, Echolyn, IZZ, Tony Banks

    Folk-prog : Jethro Tull, Clannad, Renaissance, Rebekka, Harmonium, Vermilion sand, Magdalena (the spanish band, not the japanese), Haizea, Maddy Prior, Iona, Sally Oldfield

    Hard-prog : King Crimson, a little bit of VDGG

    Continental prog (South America, Spain, Italy, Cuba) : Cai, Triana, Pablo el Enterrador, Bacamarte, Tempano, Los Jaivas, Le Orme, Celeste, Banco, PFM, Cuarto Menguante, Crack, Sagrado, Locanda delle fate, Som nosso de cada dia, Sintesis

    Art-rock/pop : Supertramp, 10CC, Manfred Mann's earthband, Kate Bush, David Bowie, Peter Gabriel

    Classical prog : ELP, The Enid

    Electronic/ambient/New Age : Mike Oldfield, Synergy, Patrick Forgas, Kit Watkins, Eddie Jobson, Marcus Viana

    Metal-prog : DT, Queensryche, Fates Warning, PoS, A piedi nudi, Aghora, Threshold, Enchant

    Canterbury : Happy The Man, National health

    RIO : Hardscore (at least the only track I have heard from them)

    Zeuhl : Magma

    Pomp-prog : Rush, Kansas 

     
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    I should point out that the difference between the first six of these is infinitesimally small…

    1. Canterbury Scene
    2. Italian Prog
    3. Symphonic Prog
    4. Rock-in-Opposition
    5. Zeuhl
    6. Kraut Rock
    7. Prog Folk
    8. Fusion
    9. Space/Experimental
    10. Art Rock
    11. Progressive Metal
    12. Neo Progressive
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    Sorry, I forgot the space-rock area :

    Pink Floyd/Rick Wright, Gong, Eloy, Riverside

     
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    Originally posted by Lunarscape Lunarscape wrote:

    The subgenres are indeed misleading and IMO pretty stupid. It started in the US since most kids over there had no idea about progressive rock anyway. Unfortunately the press in GB took the lead up and copied the subgenres. So now we have kids talking about Neo-Prog and Italian Prog against Metal Prog. For Christs sake...dont use this subgenre classification as a guide, you'll end up knowing less than before..

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    I am American and i was in high school in the 70's and as far as I remember it was all Rock music here in the states. I didn't hear the word progressive till about 1975.  I didn't even hear of half of these terms till I started logging into forums such as these.

    Do you mean Americans didn't know about the Beatles and Moody Blues and King Crimson and the Nice?  I have a poster from the Filmore West in Aug 1969 Which has The Nice and King Crimson on the same bill so that can't be right. The reason people don't think the United States had or knew about progressive rock  was because American bands are far under represented in the 1970's.  I counted in Jerry Lucky's book  over 100 american progressive music bands to the year 2000. Only 15 were pre 1980.  Now I asked in a few forums sites who could remember local progressive bands from the 70's and I now have a list of almost 100 bands that never were signed. These answers to that question are 30 years after the fact and I am sure there were a lot more than that.  (There were 15 bands in the area from Los Angeles to San Diego alone. Not one ever received a contract)  That being the case progressive rock was very well known and represented in the US just not signed and produced by the powers that be. 

     


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    This is the most boring poll in existence!Sleepy

    And Garion stop taking offence for a whole nation!Wink



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    Points: 830     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2005 at 18:58
    I don't usually go by subgenres but ill put the ones that seem to be my favorite

    Symph prog, art rock, fusion.

    (neo prog is the same as symph prog to me.)
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    1. Symphonic Prog: Genesis, Yes
    2. Space: Pink Floyd, Hawkwind, Amon Duul
    3. Italian Synphonic: PFM, Le Orme, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
    4. Classical Prog: ELP, The Nice
    5. Psychedelia: Arthur Brown, Pink Floyd
    6. Folk Prog: Renaissance, Jethro Tull, Strawbs
    7. French Theatrical Symphonic: Ange, Mona Lisa
    8. Canterbury: Caravan, Soft Machine, Hathfield and the Noth
    9. Prog Metal: Uriah Heep, Fantomas
    10. Dutch Euro Prog: Focus, Supersister, Finch

    Also some Fusion and a bit of Art Rock, the only sub genre I don't like is Neo Prog (Except Pendragon).

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    i dont see how subgenres are a bad thing

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    Aaron wrote:

    Quote dont see how subgenres are a bad thing

    Agree 100% with you Aaron, nothing that can help us understand the similarities and differences of different bands, sounds, styles, influences can't make any harm, this helped me to understand better some bands and sounds.

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    Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

    This is the most boring poll in existence!Sleepy

    And Garion stop taking offence for a whole nation!Wink

     

    We get a bad rap I tell ya!!!!!

     

     


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    main ones: (not in order)

    Progressive Metal

    Neo Prog

    Folk Prog
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    Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

    Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

    This is the most boring poll in existence!Sleepy

    And Garion stop taking offence for a whole nation!Wink

     

    We get a bad rap I tell ya!!!!!

     

    yeh,rap,country&western,and MTV!Angry

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    Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

    Originally posted by Garion81 <P>And Garion stop taking offence for a whole nation!<IMG style=CURSOR: pointer alt=Wink src=http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif onclick=AddSmileyIcon'smileys/smiley2.gif' border=0></P> <P></td></tr></table> </P> <P> </P> <P>We get a bad rap I tell ya!!!!!<IMG src=smileys/smiley36.gif border=0></P> <P> </P> <P>[/QUOTE Garion81

    And Garion stop taking offence for a whole nation!Wink

     

    We get a bad rap I tell ya!!!!!

     

    [/QUOTE wrote:

    yeh,rap,country&western,and MTV!Angry

    Wink

    yeh,rap,country&western,and MTV!Angry

    Wink

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    How about Rappin' C&W on MTV?

     


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