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    Posted: June 08 2023 at 14:17
New suggestion for Italian artist, Massimo Pieretti.

You can hear his debut album, A New Beginning, at his Bandcamp page https://massimopieretti.bandcamp.com/album/a-new-beginning 

You can also see my review at https://lazland.org/album-reviews-2023/massimo-pieretti-a-new-beginning 

As a bio, this provided by Massimo:

A new beginning is my first solo album and was born in a very delicate period of my life and that of all of us human beings, the pandemic caused by the Covid 19 virus. 

It comes at the end of a long course of study, listening and observation of the social themes most dear to me, but above all from the need to shout out to the world my idea of music and more. It is a largely autobiographical concept album consisting of 15 tracks through which I tried to express my point of view on today's society by taking a cue from my personal problems and my life experiences. 

It is a record of which I have taken care of all aspects related to the production at 360 degrees, starting from the composition of the music to the creation of the basic tracks, to the drafting of the texts (in tandem with my right arm Gianluca del Torto), from the choice and coordination of the numerous collaborators (about 30 including musicians, singers, sound engineers and illustration artists) to the final mix in concert with Francesco Mattei at Underworld studio.


Massimo has previously collaborated with

From 2021 Keyboards Noage - Original band in the Gothic metal field 

2020 / 2022 Piano and Keyboard Orphinskij - Original band in the Fusion field 

2018 / 2020 Piano The Harvest Band - Neil Young tribute band https://www.facebook.com/theharvestbandrome 

2016 / 2017 Piano, guitar and arranger IntramontaNapoli 1 e 2 -Theatre Project 

2015 / 2022 Piano and keyboards Gianna Love band - Gianna Nannini tribute band https://www.facebook.com/Gianna-Love-Band-286310184752056/ dal 

2014 Keyboards Shaman's Soldiers - The Doors tribute band http://www.shamansoldiers.it/index.html


Why I think Massimo Pieretti belongs on Prog Archives. The debut album is cinematic in its scope and is redolent in its influence of Tony Banks. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote omphaloskepsis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2023 at 15:41
I wanted to suggest Massimo. Thanks for suggesting him.
 The moderators won't let me suggest new bands. I wanted to suggest another Italian band- Klidas.  Mellow VDGG meets KC.  The last band the Moderators let me suggest was Caligonaut. 
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ok, noted Smile
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Ciao a tutti. Massimo č un ottimo autore e musicista. Qui nel mio blog NONSOLO PROGROCK la mia recensione: https://nonsoloprogrock.blogspot.com/2022/12/massimo-pieretti.html
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Hi everyone.
I reviewed Massimo's album for the Arlequins website (in Italian):
http://www.arlequins.it/pagine/articoli/alfa/corpo.asp?ch=7502
I do believe he deserves to be included in PA.
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Massimo's album 'A New Beginning' is a tremendous album, which has been featured on a number of shows on Progzilla Radio.

I highly recommend you check it out for yourselves.
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To all who have posted in this thread, as OP I have sent a reminder to the team for this suggestion. Massimo’s album is a special one and it would be a disappointment if it were not added.
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My review of Massimo Pieretti –A New Beginning (2022) https://houseofprog.com/blog/2023/05/25/massimo-pieretti-a-new-beginning-2022/Smile

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Great Album. Plenty of PROG elements and excellent guests: including Ray Weston (echolyn).

Please add Massimo Pieretti's A New Beginning.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tszirmay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2023 at 16:54
I concur and i have a review ready to post as well. 

Edited by tszirmay - July 11 2023 at 16:54
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2023 at 02:32
The latest on this saga is that there are two votes in favour, and one against.

The suggestion is awaiting the verdict of Scott (Evolver). The problem there is I do not think he is particularly active at the moment.

This sorry tale has convinced me more than ever that the addition policy on this site is in dire need of a thorough overhaul.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tszirmay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2023 at 08:04
Not even a move to another genre within PA ? Very odd . 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2023 at 08:18
What potential genre other than Crossover would you see it in? From what I heard it would be a Crossover or bust proposition. It did not strike me as a strong case as a progressive rock project from my perhaps too limited listening (I did not play the full album). That's by the by, as I have no say in it. By the way, I went to rateyourmusic and noticed that there are no genre labels for the project, might want to try to get that rectified (after all, that is a much bigger and more significant site than this one). https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/massimo-pieretti
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Good evening Logan, if you want you can listen my entire album A new beginning here on Bandcamp:
It is an autobiographical concept album that feature nearly 30 artist from around the world including Ray Weston, Kate Nord, Germana Noage and is my first attempt to express myself through music as solo artist.
Thank you for your time
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Originally posted by massimo_pieretti massimo_pieretti wrote:

Good evening Logan, if you want you can listen my entire album A new beginning here on Bandcamp:
It is an autobiographical concept album that feature nearly 30 artist from around the world including Ray Weston, Kate Nord, Germana Noage and is my first attempt to express myself through music as solo artist.
Thank you for your time
Massimo Pieretti

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Forza, Massimo! Hug
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2023 at 20:28
Thanks Mr. Pieretti. That bandcamp page is where I listened to the music before but I just did not have the opportunity to give it a proper listen at the time. I will at some time for my own interest. I was rushing bit to answer tszirmay despite not being on the team or being the voter (I often hope to catch people while still online) and had to rush out. What I meant was that it didn't quickly strike me as music that is obviously, no-brainer, Prog. Often for that I look to the epic length tracks, and this is different. Swans for instance often is not called Prog but they have very long tracks, and it's hardly the only measure (bands like Gentle Giant tend to have shorter tracks). Maybe if I were familiar with Tony Banks solo work (he is in Crossover) then I would have heard the relations more -- so much comes down to our associations, and that's a reason why often there is disagreement. As a concept album, I know that such things should be listened to in full and judged in full. Mostly I was interested to know where this might be considered to better fit than Crossover if not having a move vote seems odd. As mentioned, two people on Crossover voted thinking that is the best category, and a move vote commonly means you think it right for PA but better for another category (unsure is another, and sometimes people abstain). Crossover seems a much better place than Eclectic, RPI or Symph, Or Neo-Prog to my listening, not Zeuhl, RIO/Avant, Canterbury, Krautrock (those are the categories I know best) and Prog Related is a different ballgame with lots of different requirements (not just about the music, but influence, Prog personnel relations, and various criteria to consider). By the way, perhaps most of my favourite modern music is not in PA but could loosely fall into the Crossover Prog family.
And it is unfortunate that things stall when people go on hiatus/ are inactive for extended periods, and I had brought that up officially. Often it doesn't matter if things take longer -- this project is going on a year old -- but of course some are aching to write reviews. And I know that if I'm planning to add a band/artist, if it takes months to approve, then I have lost the passion commonly to do the work, and to me that is work, of addition. For an artist, of course, I'm sure it can be very satisfying to see oneself included and one does not like to be on tenterhooks biting ones nails for months (okay, hyperbole perhaps, and depends on the artist). By the way, I still do think it would be beneficial to try to add some tags and maybe review at rateyourmusic in the meantime. And if somebody like Anthony Fantano discovers and likes it (just as an example as a name that I know), that's gold....

Edited by Logan - July 29 2023 at 20:31
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2023 at 02:43
^ Greg, I am sure that Massimo will appreciate your explanation.

I do think that where you as admins have an inactive team member, Evolver in this case, then you change the rules to perhaps either take a majority of the active members (it is 2-1 yes), or simply add somebody to the team?

You have stated yourself that band addition suggestions are on the wane. It is hardly surprising, really. The key here is that we have an extremely passionate artist who believes that his music should fit on PA and he wants people reviewing his music here. In Thomas, we have an SC who wants to review his music. Why not make him an honorary, temporary, member of the team for the purposes of this addition?

Just a couple of thoughts.
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