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Always admired how brilliant Crimson's sophomore album is and it naturally gets the nod.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Anyway, that's my excuse for lumping Motorhead together with Hawkwind, and I'm not claiming Motorhead are a prog band in any way, shape or form. Tongue

Yes, you in fact do, as the thread titles says "Prog", and you don't state otherwise about Motörhead, and the same stylistic misfit is the case with many other artists. Confused
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But I surely don't like your quantitative, repetitive excesses like Prog Mega-Lists International - how international is it going to be, or definitely mostly British and some repetition of Prog Britannia?; and when lumping all the artists together without stylistic considerations, like for instance in the case of "Hawkwind" including Motörhead, I don't see much respect for Progressive Rock in that kind.

I know my mind works in mysterious ways sometimes, but there's a clear connection between Hawkwind and Motorhead, and that connection is Lemmy, the notorious Hellraiser and member of Hawkwind from 1971 to 1975 and leader of Motorhead until he was Killed by Death in 2015. Ouch

Anyway, that's my excuse for lumping Motorhead together with Hawkwind, and I'm not claiming Motorhead are a prog band in any way, shape or form. Tongue



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But I surely don't like your quantitative, repetitive excesses like Prog Mega-Lists International - how international is it going to be, or definitely mostly British and some repetition of Prog Britannia?; and when lumping all the artists together without stylistic considerations, like for instance in the case of "Hawkwind" including Motörhead, I don't see much respect for Progressive Rock in that kind.

Something else, how do you imagine that people can use such huge blogs as Prog Britannia when there's no real order or menu in it? I mean, it's not like using an encyclopaedia or PA's database, so isn't there a lot of waste? - I wonder how much electricity it requires to have such a blog running.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I was a dedicated progger long before I read Weigel's book. 

Anyway, I like to see that you have this ambition. Smile
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Something else is, Paul, that your respect for Progressive Rock is not a very big one.
A touch of irreverence now and then isn't always a bad thing. Wink
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Something else is, Paul, that your respect for Progressive Rock is not a very big one.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I was a dedicated progger long before I read Weigel's book. 

Actually, I can only see this statement as a possible truth if defining prog as an umbrella for some strongly Pop-influenced music - at least with your present tastes, but I can't say for sure that they're not changing. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I was a dedicated progger long before I read Weigel's book. 

Which reminds me of somebody talking about something like "maybe a full-blown proto-progger or Neo-progger". Big smile

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I'd also recommend Citizens of Hope and Glory telling the story of Neo Prog. Smile

I own and have read Citizens of Hope and Glory, but I'd say, that's not much compared to Weigel's almost incredible story, or at least especially pages about Tales from Topographic Oceans are incredibly funny.
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Paul, I can't imagine otherwise than that Weigel's book will turn you into a genuine progger. It's a remarkably great and funny read about Progressive Rock, at least the first 100 pages of it. Big smile
I was a dedicated progger long before I read Weigel's book. I'd also recommend Citizens of Hope and Glory telling the story of Neo Prog. Smile
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Paul, I can't imagine otherwise than that Weigel's book will turn you into a genuine progger. It's a remarkably great and funny read about Progressive Rock, at least the first 100 pages of it. Big smile
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So am I, but it's a Tragedy that ELP should be compared with the Bee Gees. Tongue

I surely agree with you about that. 

 


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When talking about Bee Gees, Paul, believe it or not, I liked the movie Saturday Night Fever, so after I saw it, I got the soundtrack and was quite fond of it. 
So am I, but it's a Tragedy that ELP should be compared with the Bee Gees. Tongue
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When talking about Bee Gees, Paul, believe it or not, I liked the movie Saturday Night Fever, so after I saw it, I got the soundtrack and was quite fond of it. 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^ As you can see, Paul, I'm surely happy that you've mentioned David Weigel's book - at least so far in my reading of it. Tongue
Yes, it's revealed in the book that Greg Lake wasn't happy at all with ELP's Love Beach album cover, where he says their cheesy smiles  and open shirts with hairy chests on display made ELP look like the Bee Gees on holiday. Smile
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I can already quote too one funny statement from an ELP member, and that is Emerson's comment when he the first time heard Walter/Wendy Carlos' Switched-On Bach:
"Some other tracks sounded almost comical", he'd say "like a load of elephants farting counterpoint with whoopee cushions in accompaniment." LOL (p. 66)

But a very good thing about listening to this record was, that Emerson for the first time became familiar with a Moog synthesizer (according to Weigel).


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


^ As you can see, Paul, I'm surely happy that you've mentioned David Weigel's book - at least so far in my reading of it. Tongue
Yes, it's revealed in the book that Greg Lake wasn't happy at all with ELP's Love Beach album cover, where he says their cheesy smiles  and open shirts with hairy chests on display made ELP look like the Bee Gees on holiday. Smile
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^ As you can see, Paul, I'm surely happy that you've mentioned David Weigel's book - at least so far in my reading of it. Tongue
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^ About making In th Wake of Poseidon, as told in The Show That Never Ends :

"After McDonald and Giles quit, and Lake followed, what had been a 22.5 percent royalty share for Fripp became 60 percent. He was an impresario now, even if his new singer was utterly unmoved by Keith Tippett and couldn't understand what the point was, musically, of the pianist's fingerings on songs like "Cat Food". 
"That sounds just like a cat walking across a piano," Haskell told Fripp.
"Yeah," said the impresario, "but Keith knows what he's doing . A cat doesn't."" LOL (2017, p. 59)

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PS.  If you can add a vote for me...Bruford.Wink 

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