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    Posted: May 07 2009 at 17:08
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

My suggestion would be The Gathering especially on How To Meaure A Planet? and Souvenirs

'The Big Sleep' (How To Measure A Planet?)
 
'A Life All Mine' (Souvenirs) ~ With Kristoffer Rygg (Ulver)
 
My Dying Bride also touched on Trip Hop on 34.788%... Complete and covered Portishead's 'Roads' for a Peaceville compilation CD

Fantastic recommendations Dean  ClapClapClap The Gathering were the first that came to mind, along with Ulver, being mentioned before

Also, not sure if applicable but Tiamat also had some nice trip-hop moments in A Deeper Kind of Slumber...
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Points: 10754 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:16
^ I own CDs by many of those peoples ... horizons have been expanded already and looking for further expansion ...

Edited by Easy Money - May 04 2009 at 19:17
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any one who's paid attention to music in the past 10 years, would count several bands in the prog trip hop camp: orbital, banco de gaia, the chemical brothers, stereolab, roni size and individuals such as towa tei and amon tobin have certainly stretched the boundries of chillout, ambient, and trip hop enough to stretch right into the progressive rock camp, roni size in particular, hits the stage with 4 turntablists, a drummer, a standup bassist, a rap guy, and a diva, and anyone who's heard their album "NEW FORMS" would concur  that this is one of the growing number of trip hop bands that defy classification and have clearly crossed over into prog, steve hillage's system 7 is a fine example of this, and amon tobin in particular, is one of the chief exponents of this type of music, I urge you all to expand your horizons and checkout these bands!!
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Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

kay, as per my understanding...trip hop is instrumental based electronic music that retains a "natural" sound (i.e., keyboards that sound like pianos, organs, harpsicords, gutiars are a plus). Very ('humble, very) heavy on the drums (live and machines) and bass, long stretches without vocals that utilizes repetative riffage. Liberal use of sampling. Mood is usually more downbeat. 

For example, I'd consider this more trip hop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZsHNkAJBDU&feature=related

than the provided this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGYRvIOZfZ8

Of course, the infamous "Teardrop" is a personal fave...

Well that sounds about right, I'm not going to argue with the main point since you're the one who actually listens to to trip hop, and that other song was much more sedate than I was expecting, but the hip hop rhythms are still there, and that's not really a part of 15 Step or Karma Police. What annoyed me is that so many people in this thread are labelling anything with electronic sounds as trip hop, and no, Porcupine Tree and King Crimson are not trip hop.
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

i believe Miles Davis' last album "Doo-Bop" is one of the earliest examples of trip-hop or acid jazz, if they are one in the same
No, they are not.

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You can loop the first part of ELP's live version of Rodeo and you get a beat similar to 'funky drummer' plus a cool synth glissando. It was one of the first loops I made when I first got a sampler back in the late 80s.
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Thanks, will check those out.
 
You know, I just thought about something.
 
Is it just me, or would the bass parts in Close to the Edge make bitchin' hip hop samples?

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Gavin Castleton : 'Home'. Besides trip-hop on 5 or 6 tracks, you can hear "rap" on two tracks. overall, a nice concept-album that should please fans of Kevin Gilbert
 
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Points: 905 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2009 at 11:28

I think it's an awesome concept.

Obviously I'm a Bjork fan, I think it would be great if bands started taking her sound (as well as stuff like Aphex Twin, Primal Screal, DJ Shadow and Portishead) and supplemented it into a prog rock format. As diverse as prog is today I'm sure such a thing already exists. Which is while I wouldn't mind taking a few recommendations from my prog brethren. Wink
 
One thing I believe strongly about prog is that there's absolutely no genre of music it can't merge with.
 
And yes fellas, that includes punk.


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"Dna ts. Rednum or F. Raf" off of Riverside's "Voices in My Head" EP.
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Points: 3595 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2009 at 14:13
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

My suggestion would be The Gathering especially on How To Meaure A Planet? and Souvenirs

'The Big Sleep' (How To Measure A Planet?)
 
'A Life All Mine' (Souvenirs) ~ With Kristoffer Rygg (Ulver)
 
My Dying Bride also touched on Trip Hop on 34.788%... Complete and covered Portishead's 'Roads' for a Peaceville compilation CD


My friend, I think you have turned me onto a new band. This "The Gathering" music, I quite liked. I thank you.
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:



I have an album by Future Sound of London called Dead Cities that is a perfect blend of trip-hop, progressive rock and movie soundtracks, it has that huge 'epic' sound that I would equate with early 70s prog-rock.


That sounds very promising, I'll look for it. Thanks!
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mhh, i think that Porcupine Tree has in a lot of their songs the influence of trip-hop...
at the beggining of Gravity Eyelids, just listening to the drums you can appreciate that
or in the section of Akerfeldt's solo in "Arriving Somewhere.."
also in "Sentimental"
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Originally posted by the_binkster the_binkster wrote:

I've always thought No-Man have huge trip-hop influences, in fact the whole of "Returning Jesus" is a trip-hop influenced prog album and brilliant for it....

You're right, there's a definite Trip-Hop element to No-Man, although arguably they were doing Trip Hop pre-Trip Hop.

The band's debut singles Colours (1990) and Days In The Trees (1991) (on Bjork's label, One Little Indian) feature break-beats combined with Classical/Art Rock influences and were both Singles Of The Week in the UK music press of the day (Melody Maker and Sounds). 
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Points: 402 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2009 at 04:21

There's a band listed on PA, "Archive".

They mix Trip-Hop and prog elements.
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Well I love Intension myself, but that percussion bridge section never really struck me as Trip-Hoppy. Could be, though! Shocked
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Points: 1698 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2009 at 22:07
^Well "Intension" has an electronic percussion bridge section, I wouldn't know if you missed that. Of course, it's not really a favorite song, and I wouldn't really know trip-hop enough to say whether it fits in the genre.

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Not sure if he's an actual MUSICAL influence on them, but Tool had Tricky appear in their Parabola music video.
 
The more electronic moments of the more recent Porcupine Tree stuff may pass for some Trip-Hop influences as well, but only just.
 
Practically any Prog Electronica could have interchangeable ideas between the two genres in the borader sense, I suppose, though Trip-Hop is much more about using already existing material like Hip-Hop does, while Electroniuca . .  .well, you know where I'm going with this.
 
Interestingly enough, I believe Trip-Hop was mentioned on this forum somewhere before as being a potential additional Prog genre. If that is indeed true, then thank God it didn't go through. Wink
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I've always thought No-Man have huge trip-hop influences, in fact the whole of "Returning Jesus" is a trip-hop influenced prog album and brilliant for it....

Edited by the_binkster - April 20 2009 at 15:26
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2009 at 12:38
Today I added the tag to PF ... since authentic Trip Hop probably won't make it to PA any time soon, maybe some of you will help me fill this chart at PF:

http://progfreak.com/home/charts.xhtml?y=*any&ps=prog&tags=triphop

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Points: 10754 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2009 at 12:19
^ they're similar, but not the same. Doo Bop could be called acid jazz, it came out in 91, but British DJs started doing acid jazz sets as early as mid to late 80s.
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