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Raff
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 14:18 |
MajesterX wrote:
micky wrote:
if you don't mean to be a sad sack.. I won't mean being to be a prick.
Whether you like or don't like you doesn't matter a damn.
Those sub-genres exist to help those who don't know his music with a
reference point to other artist who have a similar style. Being
in PR says jack sh*t about what he did musically or what he sounded
like. We 'make up' these sub-genres to help sort out of these nearly
3000 bands. It isn't a science.. .only a reference.
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Do you honestly believe that if a Peter Gabriel fan asked for similar bands, you would direct him to Radiohead or Mike Oldfield?
I was younger and more ignorant when I first came here, and I began to associate the bands here with the genre names here when talking to other prog fans, and they were confused as hell. In the real world, the sub-categorizing stops at progressive rock.
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OK, so your solution would be..? Having everything together, so that a Peter Gabriel fan would find similar bands more easily? I really wonder at how easy it is for some people to criticise, even to try to destroy what others are working hard to create... It's true that some set too much store by categories, but is it really necessary to put things so unpleasantly? After all, you know how this site works... If those categories and classifications really get to you, you should try and find a site that only deals with 'progressive rock'.
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micky
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 14:18 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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MajesterX
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 14:08 |
micky wrote:
if you don't mean to be a sad sack.. I won't mean being to be a prick.
Whether you like or don't like you doesn't matter a damn.
Those sub-genres exist to help those who don't know his music with a
reference point to other artist who have a similar style. Being
in PR says jack sh*t about what he did musically or what he sounded
like. We 'make up' these sub-genres to help sort out of these nearly
3000 bands. It isn't a science.. .only a reference.
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Do you honestly believe that if a Peter Gabriel fan asked for similar bands, you would direct him to Radiohead or Mike Oldfield? I was younger and more ignorant when I first came here, and I began to associate the bands here with the genre names here when talking to other prog fans, and they were confused as hell. In the real world, the sub-categorizing stops at progressive rock.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 13:07 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Definately!!!
Lets not get ahead of ourselves though and put Led Zeppelin in heavy prog. If we did that I would immediately leave! |
No, now the priority is to get Bachman Turner Overdrive into heavy prog. Or conceive a new sub-genre called lumberjack prog. (eh) Now back to that tractor trailer load of Moosehead that buddy has parked in his drive way
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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micky
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 12:28 |
MajesterX wrote:
woopee. Gabriel's in some sub-genre of a sub-genre that we made up and now we're rejoicing.
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don't mean to be a sad sack here, but as long as Peter Gabriel is
recognized or even on the site for that matter, why does it matter
whether he's in the related section of the new so-called "crossover"
section? I like him a good deal, but I couldn't care less whether he's called Eclectic Crossover Progressive Rock or just plain Pop.
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if you don't mean to be a sad sack.. I won't mean being to be a prick. 
Whether you like or don't like you doesn't matter a damn.
Those sub-genres exist to help those who don't know his music with a
reference point to other artist who have a similar style. Being
in PR says jack sh*t about what he did musically or what he sounded
like. We 'make up' these sub-genres to help sort out of these nearly
3000 bands. It isn't a science.. .only a reference.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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MajesterX
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 10:49 |
woopee. Gabriel's in some sub-genre of a sub-genre that we made up and now we're rejoicing.
I don't mean to be a sad sack here, but as long as Peter Gabriel is recognized or even on the site for that matter, why does it matter whether he's in the related section of the new so-called "crossover" section? I like him a good deal, but I couldn't care less whether he's called Eclectic Crossover Progressive Rock or just plain Pop.
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micky
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 08:15 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Passionist
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:48 |
Now there's a way to get the needed apathy and negativiness back to PA!
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micky
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:35 |
Passionist wrote:
Heh, another spot free in the prog-related :) No, I'm hapy with this move.
/me goes on his rampage for adding björk to PA ;)
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funny you mention Bjork...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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micky
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:34 |
jimmy_row wrote:
yes yes, very nice move...though I won't enjoy his music any more or less.
Ghost Rider wrote:
micky wrote:
the hell with this....a move that people like. We
can't be having any of that... moving him back to PR.
Listening to you all bitch about this stuff is much more fun  |
As usual, I miss all the fun due to my different times ....
I can't believe my eyes, though! Somebody who's actually HAPPY at one
of our decisions... What's the world (i.e. PA) coming to?  
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there will always be complainers looming about, but there
are still many of us who appreciate the many little things that are
less noticeable, so I hope you collabs don't feel like we by-standers
are looking to piss on everything that is done (ahem....micky and
Raff.......some of us are actually happy to have BOC here   ) |
did that sound like to be a request to have BOC moved?...  
peace and love is great in life...
but PA's isn't life.... we'lll try to do better next time everyone...
hopefully the next one moved will meet with a bit more antipathy.
Edited by micky - September 22 2007 at 07:36
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Passionist
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:10 |
Heh, another spot free in the prog-related :) No, I'm hapy with this move.
/me goes on his rampage for adding björk to PA ;)
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Time Signature
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:03 |
I suppose it's only fair to place him in this category, since he has opined that the whole progressive thing was all about mixing up different genres to see which combinations worked and which didn't.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 05:13 |
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chopper
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 05:09 |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:44 |
yes yes, very nice move...though I won't enjoy his music any more or less.
Ghost Rider wrote:
micky wrote:
the hell with this....a move that people like. We can't be having any of that... moving him back to PR. Listening to you all bitch about this stuff is much more fun  |
As usual, I miss all the fun due to my different times .... I can't believe my eyes, though! Somebody who's actually HAPPY at one of our decisions... What's the world (i.e. PA) coming to?  
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there will always be complainers looming about, but there are still many of us who appreciate the many little things that are less noticeable, so I hope you collabs don't feel like we by-standers are looking to piss on everything that is done (ahem....micky and Raff.......some of us are actually happy to have BOC here   )
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Ricochet
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:31 |
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memowakeman
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:27 |
Great!
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bhikkhu
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:10 |
Ghandi 2 wrote:
So when Peter said he left Genesis to write pop songs, what did that mean? ;-) |
It means Gabriel, as usual, was playing by his own rules.
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: September 21 2007 at 23:47 |
So when Peter said he left Genesis to write pop songs, what did that mean? ;-)
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Raff
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Posted: September 21 2007 at 23:15 |
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