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Points: 782 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2009 at 20:50
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

I have an album by Future Sound of London called Dead Cities that is a perfect blend of trip-hop, progressive rock and movie soundtracks, it has that huge 'epic' sound that I would equate with early 70s prog-rock.


Agreed. FSOL also incorporate significant slabs of psychedelica. I've given up agitating for their inclusion here because most proggers equate electronic music with trance or house. Nothing could be further from the truth! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ss0peoW9bA)

The thirty minute, five-part version on the 'My Kingdom' single is as proggy as prog gets, IMO.
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Points: 1566 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2009 at 22:31
Blackmonk from Pasadena Ca.  Has some great lo fi trip hop/
https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine
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Okay, as per my understanding...trip hop is instrumental based electronic music that retains a "natural" sound (i.e., keyboards that sound like pianos, organs, harpsicords, gutiars are a plus). Very ('humble, very) heavy on the drums (live and machines) and bass, long stretches without vocals that utilizes repetative riffage. Liberal use of sampling. Mood is usually more downbeat. 

For example, I'd consider this more trip hop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZsHNkAJBDU&feature=related

than the provided this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGYRvIOZfZ8

Of course, the infamous "Teardrop" is a personal fave...
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Points: 10754 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2009 at 05:34
^ your links didn't work for me, but your description was good. Trip-Hop started out as B sides to hip hop singles that had the vocals taken out. As trip hop developed it's own style the beat slowed down and the production became more psychedelic. The DJs and producers started going back to older hip hop beats (late 80s-early 90s, ie slowed down breakbeats). Trip Hop also has a strong cross-relationship with acid jazz, hence the use of electric pianos, Hammond organs, wah wah guitars, or samples of those instruments. These days trip hop has a huge influence on many musical styles and has totally permeated pop culture.
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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2009 at 11:13
i believe Miles Davis' last album "Doo-Bop" is one of the earliest examples of trip-hop or acid jazz, if they are one in the same
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^ they're similar, but not the same. Doo Bop could be called acid jazz, it came out in 91, but British DJs started doing acid jazz sets as early as mid to late 80s.
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2009 at 12:38
Today I added the tag to PF ... since authentic Trip Hop probably won't make it to PA any time soon, maybe some of you will help me fill this chart at PF:

http://progfreak.com/home/charts.xhtml?y=*any&ps=prog&tags=triphop

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I've always thought No-Man have huge trip-hop influences, in fact the whole of "Returning Jesus" is a trip-hop influenced prog album and brilliant for it....

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Not sure if he's an actual MUSICAL influence on them, but Tool had Tricky appear in their Parabola music video.
 
The more electronic moments of the more recent Porcupine Tree stuff may pass for some Trip-Hop influences as well, but only just.
 
Practically any Prog Electronica could have interchangeable ideas between the two genres in the borader sense, I suppose, though Trip-Hop is much more about using already existing material like Hip-Hop does, while Electroniuca . .  .well, you know where I'm going with this.
 
Interestingly enough, I believe Trip-Hop was mentioned on this forum somewhere before as being a potential additional Prog genre. If that is indeed true, then thank God it didn't go through. Wink
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^Well "Intension" has an electronic percussion bridge section, I wouldn't know if you missed that. Of course, it's not really a favorite song, and I wouldn't really know trip-hop enough to say whether it fits in the genre.

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Well I love Intension myself, but that percussion bridge section never really struck me as Trip-Hoppy. Could be, though! Shocked
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There's a band listed on PA, "Archive".

They mix Trip-Hop and prog elements.
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Originally posted by the_binkster the_binkster wrote:

I've always thought No-Man have huge trip-hop influences, in fact the whole of "Returning Jesus" is a trip-hop influenced prog album and brilliant for it....

You're right, there's a definite Trip-Hop element to No-Man, although arguably they were doing Trip Hop pre-Trip Hop.

The band's debut singles Colours (1990) and Days In The Trees (1991) (on Bjork's label, One Little Indian) feature break-beats combined with Classical/Art Rock influences and were both Singles Of The Week in the UK music press of the day (Melody Maker and Sounds). 
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mhh, i think that Porcupine Tree has in a lot of their songs the influence of trip-hop...
at the beggining of Gravity Eyelids, just listening to the drums you can appreciate that
or in the section of Akerfeldt's solo in "Arriving Somewhere.."
also in "Sentimental"
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2009 at 12:45
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:



I have an album by Future Sound of London called Dead Cities that is a perfect blend of trip-hop, progressive rock and movie soundtracks, it has that huge 'epic' sound that I would equate with early 70s prog-rock.


That sounds very promising, I'll look for it. Thanks!
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Points: 3595 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2009 at 14:13
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

My suggestion would be The Gathering especially on How To Meaure A Planet? and Souvenirs

'The Big Sleep' (How To Measure A Planet?)
 
'A Life All Mine' (Souvenirs) ~ With Kristoffer Rygg (Ulver)
 
My Dying Bride also touched on Trip Hop on 34.788%... Complete and covered Portishead's 'Roads' for a Peaceville compilation CD


My friend, I think you have turned me onto a new band. This "The Gathering" music, I quite liked. I thank you.
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"Dna ts. Rednum or F. Raf" off of Riverside's "Voices in My Head" EP.
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Points: 905 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2009 at 11:28

I think it's an awesome concept.

Obviously I'm a Bjork fan, I think it would be great if bands started taking her sound (as well as stuff like Aphex Twin, Primal Screal, DJ Shadow and Portishead) and supplemented it into a prog rock format. As diverse as prog is today I'm sure such a thing already exists. Which is while I wouldn't mind taking a few recommendations from my prog brethren. Wink
 
One thing I believe strongly about prog is that there's absolutely no genre of music it can't merge with.
 
And yes fellas, that includes punk.


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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2009 at 11:51
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Gavin Castleton : 'Home'. Besides trip-hop on 5 or 6 tracks, you can hear "rap" on two tracks. overall, a nice concept-album that should please fans of Kevin Gilbert
 
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Points: 905 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2009 at 12:04
Thanks, will check those out.
 
You know, I just thought about something.
 
Is it just me, or would the bass parts in Close to the Edge make bitchin' hip hop samples?

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