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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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I think you should have been more clear saying that "which songs feel out-of-place, no matter if it's good or bad", it would have saved a lot of the time discussing.
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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the only thing that is jazzy about "Cat Food" is the wild piano of Keith Tippet, which I absolutely love. the rest is pure rock. anyway, in what way does it stand out? we have a completely mixed bag of tracks on the album, so you really can't say it stands out. every other track stands out just the same |
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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Certanly, Quiet One, "Are You ready, Eddy" is crudely done -- a good-natured, one-off inside joke by the band members at (producer) Eddy Offord's expense. I agree that it stands out, but I don't feel it detracts from the rest of the album. I think of it as a "bonus" track.
But real songs like More Fool Me, Cat Food, Benny the Bouncer -- I find them to be essential aspects/facets of their respective albums. Injections of beauty, weirdness & humour. Progressive digressions, if you like -- side trips, stops along the way.
Seriously, I think bands are under more pressure to have uniformity of sound and mood, today. They have to "fit" a mould that fans and companies want them to stay in. Image also seems to be more important than ever, and the prevailing crafted image today seems to be macho/unsmiling for males, and slutty for females.
When was the last time a metal band smiled in a publicity pic, or a "hot" female pop artist didn't wear underwear as outerwear on stage?
Humour punctures/diminishes masculine toughness, and feminine sexual allure (or so the industry & many fans seem to think).
Female artists are judged much more on looks than males are, too. Want to be popular? better be thin, young, pretty, and dressed like a prostitute.
But I digress -- think of my post as a "bonus" or filler in an otherwise thematically coherent thread.... ![]() Edited by Peter - July 30 2010 at 02:54 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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The Hemulen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
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This is actually only a bonus track on the first CD reissue, which might go some way towards explaining why it seems out of place. Specifically, it's an outtake from Cow's sessions for this album. As for my own suggestions, "Harry Irene" on Beefheart's Shiny Beast album never seems right to me. Yeah, there's a strong undercurrent of Americana running right through that album, but on that song it just completely takes over and doesn't really offer any of the Captain's usual idiosyncrasies to justify its presence on an otherwise perfect album. |
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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I just imagined Britney Spears wearing a burka with full facial veil on stage ![]() |
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20070 |
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I like "Are You Ready Eddy" - it's a good laugh at the end of a quite serious album.
I do most of my listening on the train to work so I tend to skip tracks that are quiet e.g. Moonchild which isn't really listenable on the Tube. Also "More Fool Me" which doesn't really fit between 2 epic prog tracks imo.
btw - the Steve Howe guitar instrumental on The Yes Album is supposed to be called "Clap", not "The Clap".
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Welcome back Peter.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Pedant! |
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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I don't skip.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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You should try it. It's quicker than walking but not as tiring as running. Plus its fun!
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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How about sea-sickness?
![]() So what's a skipper? |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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It's hard to describe....its a kind of jumpy walk........kids do it. At least they used to. Can any UK member help out here? Note...not to be confused with skipping with a rope.
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20070 |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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ah, but when I hear music I float! |
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![]() A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Like this.......
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ten years after ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 07 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1008 |
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Nutrocker is a huge come down after Pictures at an Exhibition.
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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really? it is a humorous take on a theme from Tchaikovsky's "Nutcracker suite". this is what meant: after the pretentious, pompous, weihevoll "Pictures at an Exhibition" the humor of "Nutrocker" can't be forgiven. we should hear classical music with a lot less pretentious and weihevoll attitude too. many composers (Bach, Mozart and especially Haydn, whom Bernstein called "the greatest joker in music history") want to make fun of us, just as ELP do with "Nutrocker". many people take prog way too seriously |
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tamijo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
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Even though they are often fine, hits get spoiled by overplaying, and later becomes the track to skip.
Like Radioactive from Firm
Money From Dark Side
Stairway from Zep. IV
ect ect ect
All great tracks, but I just know them too well.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20070 |
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![]() Nutrocker is great!
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