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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 02:05
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

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as regards Cat Food, I never didnīt declare itīs weak song. But absolutely donīt fit to general concept of "In The Wake Of Poseidon". Itīs jazzy song, rather sounds like something from "Lizard", between more or less spacey songs it effects incorrectly somewhat .
 
I think you should have been more clear saying that "which songs feel out-of-place, no matter if it's good or bad", it would have saved a lot of the time discussing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 02:31
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Dear friends,
as regards Cat Food, I never didnīt declare itīs weak song. But absolutely donīt fit to general concept of "In The Wake Of Poseidon". Itīs jazzy song, rather sounds like something from "Lizard", between more or less spacey songs it effects incorrectly somewhat .

the only thing that is jazzy about "Cat Food" is the wild piano of Keith Tippet, which I absolutely love. the rest is pure rock.
anyway, in what way does it stand out? we have a completely mixed bag of tracks on the album, so you really can't say it stands out. every other track stands out just the same


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 02:33
Certanly, Quiet One,  "Are You ready, Eddy" is crudely done -- a good-natured, one-off inside joke by the band members at (producer) Eddy Offord's expense. I agree that it stands out, but I don't feel it detracts from the rest of the album. I think of it as a "bonus" track.
 
But real songs like More Fool Me, Cat Food, Benny the Bouncer -- I find them to be essential aspects/facets of their respective albums. Injections of beauty, weirdness & humour. Progressive digressions, if you like -- side trips, stops along the way.
 
Seriously, I think bands are under more pressure to have uniformity of sound and mood, today. They have to "fit" a mould that fans and companies want them to stay in. Image also seems to be more important than ever, and the prevailing crafted image today seems to be macho/unsmiling for males, and slutty for females.
When was the last time a metal band smiled in a publicity pic, or a "hot" female pop artist didn't wear underwear as outerwear on stage?
 
Humour punctures/diminishes masculine toughness, and feminine sexual allure (or so the industry & many fans seem to think).
 
Female artists are judged much more on looks than males are, too. Want to be popular? better be thin, young, pretty, and dressed like a prostitute.
 
But I digress -- think of my post as a "bonus" or filler in an otherwise thematically coherent thread.... Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 02:40
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Bellycan - Legend
 


This is actually only a bonus track on the first CD reissue, which might go some way towards explaining why it seems out of place. Specifically, it's an outtake from Cow's sessions for this album.

As for my own suggestions, "Harry Irene" on Beefheart's Shiny Beast album never seems right to me. Yeah, there's a strong undercurrent of Americana running right through that album, but on that song it just completely takes over and doesn't really offer any of the Captain's usual idiosyncrasies to justify its presence on an otherwise perfect album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 02:49
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Bellycan - Legend
 


This is actually only a bonus track on the first CD reissue, which might go some way towards explaining why it seems out of place. Specifically, it's an outtake from Cow's sessions for this album.

As for my own suggestions, "Harry Irene" on Beefheart's Shiny Beast album never seems right to me. Yeah, there's a strong undercurrent of Americana running right through that album, but on that song it just completely takes over and doesn't really offer any of the Captain's usual idiosyncrasies to justify its presence on an otherwise perfect album.
So, it's idiosyncratic, then? Ermm
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 03:43
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Certanly, Quiet One,  "Are You ready, Eddy" is crudely done -- a good-natured, one-off inside joke by the band members at (producer) Eddy Offord's expense. I agree that it stands out, but I don't feel it detracts from the rest of the album. I think of it as a "bonus" track.
 
But real songs like More Fool Me, Cat Food, Benny the Bouncer -- I find them to be essential aspects/facets of their respective albums. Injections of beauty, weirdness & humour. Progressive digressions, if you like -- side trips, stops along the way.
 
Seriously, I think bands are under more pressure to have uniformity of sound and mood, today. They have to "fit" a mould that fans and companies want them to stay in. Image also seems to be more important than ever, and the prevailing crafted image today seems to be macho/unsmiling for males, and slutty for females.
When was the last time a metal band smiled in a publicity pic, or a "hot" female pop artist didn't wear underwear as outerwear on stage?
 
Humour punctures/diminishes masculine toughness, and feminine sexual allure (or so the industry & many fans seem to think).
 
Female artists are judged much more on looks than males are, too. Want to be popular? better be thin, young, pretty, and dressed like a prostitute.
 
But I digress -- think of my post as a "bonus" or filler in an otherwise thematically coherent thread.... Wink

I just imagined Britney Spears wearing a burka with full facial veil on stage LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 06:42
I like "Are You Ready Eddy" - it's a good laugh at the end of a quite serious album.
 
I do most of my listening on the train to work so I tend to skip tracks that are quiet e.g. Moonchild which isn't really listenable on the Tube. Also "More Fool Me" which doesn't really fit between 2 epic prog tracks imo.
 
btw - the Steve Howe guitar instrumental on The Yes Album is supposed to be called "Clap", not "The Clap".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 06:52
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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Bellycan - Legend
 


This is actually only a bonus track on the first CD reissue, which might go some way towards explaining why it seems out of place. Specifically, it's an outtake from Cow's sessions for this album.

As for my own suggestions, "Harry Irene" on Beefheart's Shiny Beast album never seems right to me. Yeah, there's a strong undercurrent of Americana running right through that album, but on that song it just completely takes over and doesn't really offer any of the Captain's usual idiosyncrasies to justify its presence on an otherwise perfect album.
So, it's idiosyncratic, then? Ermm
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 06:55
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I like "Are You Ready Eddy" - it's a good laugh at the end of a quite serious album.
 
I do most of my listening on the train to work so I tend to skip tracks that are quiet e.g. Moonchild which isn't really listenable on the Tube. Also "More Fool Me" which doesn't really fit between 2 epic prog tracks imo.
 
btw - the Steve Howe guitar instrumental on The Yes Album is supposed to be called "Clap", not "The Clap".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 06:57
I don't skip.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 07:03
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I don't skip.

You should try it.

It's quicker than walking but not as tiring as running. Plus its fun!Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 07:06
How about sea-sickness? LOL

So what's a skipper?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 07:11
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

How about sea-sickness? LOL

So what's a skipper?

It's hard to describe....its a kind of jumpy walk........kids do it. At least they used to. Can any UK member help out here?

Note...not to be confused with skipping with a rope.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 07:11
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I don't skip.

You should try it.

It's quicker than walking but not as tiring as running. Plus its fun!Big smile
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 07:15
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I don't skip.

You should try it.

It's quicker than walking but not as tiring as running. Plus its fun!Big smile
 
LOL

ah, but when I hear music I float!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 07:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 07:18
Nutrocker is a huge come down after Pictures at an Exhibition. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 08:00
Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Nutrocker is a huge come down after Pictures at an Exhibition. 

really? it is a humorous take on a theme from Tchaikovsky's "Nutcracker suite". this is what meant: after the pretentious, pompous, weihevoll "Pictures at an Exhibition" the humor of "Nutrocker" can't be forgiven.

we should hear classical music with a lot less pretentious and weihevoll attitude too. many composers (Bach, Mozart and especially Haydn, whom Bernstein called "the greatest joker in music history") want to make fun of us, just as ELP do with "Nutrocker". many people take prog way too seriously


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 08:23
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I only tend to skip a track if it's had a lot of airplay.
Same !
 
Even though they are often fine, hits get spoiled by overplaying, and later becomes the track to skip.
Like Radioactive from Firm
Money From Dark Side
Stairway from Zep. IV
ect ect ect
 
All great tracks, but I just know them too well.  
 
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 09:31
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Nutrocker is a huge come down after Pictures at an Exhibition. 

really? it is a humorous take on a theme from Tchaikovsky's "Nutcracker suite". this is what meant: after the pretentious, pompous, weihevoll "Pictures at an Exhibition" the humor of "Nutrocker" can't be forgiven.

we should hear classical music with a lot less pretentious and weihevoll attitude too. many composers (Bach, Mozart and especially Haydn, whom Bernstein called "the greatest joker in music history") want to make fun of us, just as ELP do with "Nutrocker". many people take prog way too seriously
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Nutrocker is great!
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