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Rob The Good 
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 Posted: January 02 2005 at 19:26 |
Thanks everyone! Yeah the reviews for each album were my first ports of call, and I've read pretty much all of them (there's a high chance that I missed a couple). I just started this thread because I was even more curious as to what peoples' opinions were. 
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
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Possessed
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Posted: March 07 2005 at 22:30 |
 ivan_2068 wrote:
Trespass is an underrated album, Anthony Phillips did an outstanding job in this release, his style is very close to Steve Hackett's, I still believe Trespass sounds as an album with Hackett more than The Lamb or Selling England by the Pound. Even John Mayhew was a pretty decent drummer, not in the level of Phil Collins but good enough.
White Mountain is among my ten top Genesis tracks and Stagnation is incredibly beautiful, I love that dark mysterious sound.
Nursery Cryme is my all time favorite Genesis album, of course is less solid than Foxtrot because of For Absent Friends, but IMHO The Musical Box and Fountain of Salmacis are the best tracks in Genesis catalogue.
Iván
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Yes, I agree that White Mountain and Stagnation are incredibly beautiful. Very atmospheric and my faves on TRESPASS. I prefer the live version of The Knife on Genesis Live although the studio version is worthy.
Nursery Cryme contains my all-time favourite song by Genesis, The Musical Box. Harold The Barrel is a bit of fun and Seven Stones and Return of The Giant Hogweed are good also. It's definitely an album to get.
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: March 07 2005 at 23:51 |
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No reason not to get either. Personally I enjoy Trespass more, although
Nursery Cryme is a fine album. I partially enjoy Trespass more, because
of the historical factor, the first album wiht a 'Genesis" sound, as
well as Anthony Phillips for a change. I won't argue that he's a better
guitarist, but it's interesting to see the difference between Hackett's
wonderful live version of "The Knife" and that of Philips. Looking ofr
someone is one of the most heartfelt Genesis songs I can think of, and
it starts me off deep into the music, with Gabriel's wonderful vocals.
This is my personal opinion, though most seem to prefer "Nursery
Cryme", if you're looking into it for a more enjoyable listen I would
choose "Nursery Cryme", goign under the assumption that the majority
rules, however for a historical album I would say "Trespass"."Trespass"
is definatley an album that takes some gettign used to, I didn't like
it after the first listen, seemed bland adn empty, but after about the
5th time it surpassed "Nursery Cryme" for me.
In the end there's no reason not to get both though.
ps- seems to me that vinyl is a much better listen for Genesis albums,
because th eproduction problems don't show as much. That's just my
opinion with Foxtrot, the only one I've heard on vinyl, it's also
better produced than the previous 3 though.
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Cluster One
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Posted: March 08 2005 at 02:16 |
I completely agree with Rob the Plant. 
"Trespass" is my preferred GENESIS album compared to "Nursery Cryme". I
know "Cryme" has 'The Musical Box' and a number of other great tunes,
it's just I find "Trespass" so much more emotional! Whether it's
'Looking For Someone's melancholy or 'The Knife's proto-metal anger. I
also absolutely adore 'Stagnation' and its middle instrumental section.
Both albums are ESSENTIAL GENESIS though, and both deserve the many 5/5
star ratings they often get.
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Prog_head
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Posted: March 08 2005 at 04:48 |
All the albums are great but my fav is SEBTP. Tresspass can be hard to get into but is worth the effort (IMHO) 
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Jethro Fish
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Posted: March 08 2005 at 05:32 |
GET 'EM BOTH!
"Nursery Cryme" is absolutely essential IMHO and "Trespass" is a very good album as well. If you can only get one, get "Nursery Cryme".
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Posted: March 08 2005 at 07:30 |
Jethro Fish wrote:
GET 'EM BOTH!
"Nursery Cryme" is absolutely essential IMHO and "Trespass" is a very good album as well. If you can only get one, get "Nursery Cryme". |
I'm with you on this one - for some reason, I've never been able to get fully into 'Trespass'; I have no doubt it's a fine album (essentially their debut, if you ignore the "this is our first time in the studio" naivety that was 'Genesis To Revelation'), but for me, the sound only really gelled on 'Nursery Cryme'; Peter Gabriel especially finding confidence in his voice, and Bank's orchestral use of the Mellotron swelling the sound to real majesty - listen to the closing section of 'seven stones' and the opening of 'fountain of salmacis' - this is how a Mellotron needs to be used.
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Guillermo
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Posted: March 08 2005 at 21:51 |
Rob The Good wrote:
Hey all. I have Genesis' "Foxtrot", "Selling England..", "The Lamb..." and "Seconds Out", but what are your opinions on earlier albums; "Trespass" & "Nursery Cryme" in particular? |
I like both albums.
"Trespass", IMO, has more acoustic guitars than "Nursery Cryme", which is more "heavy" with the addition of Steve Hackett`s lead guitars and Phil Collins` drums.
"Trespass", IMO, still sounds like done by a band still looking for a mature style. The songs "White Mountain", "Visons of Angels" and "Stagnation" are my favourites from this album.
"Nursery Cryme" is a bit better than "Trespass", IMO. "The Fountain of Salmacis" is my favourite from this album, but the rest of the songs are very good too.
You could also buy "Genesis Live": a very good live album.
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: March 08 2005 at 21:57 |
Here's an idea- Get every single Genesis album from the Gabriel era, then get the Genesis Archives (good one), and then get "Trick of the Tail", then "Wind and Wuthering", then eventually "And ThenThere were Three", and then "Duke", and then "Abacab", and then "Genesis". But for god sakes DO NOT go beyond Genesis.
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Posted: March 09 2005 at 03:31 |
Rob The Plant wrote:
But for god sakes DO NOT go beyond Genesis |
Like an old map, this should be labelled "beyond here lies balderdash"
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Roan's Lady
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Posted: March 09 2005 at 17:01 |
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I am lately getting very much into Trespass and Nursey Cryme, after a
couple of months of getting very much into Foxtrot. "Stagnation",
"Can-Utility...", "The Musical Box" and especially "Supper's Ready" are
simply phenomenal. Where have I been??
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Hangedman
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Posted: March 09 2005 at 17:04 |
Roan's Lady wrote:
I am lately getting very much into Trespass and Nursey Cryme, after a couple of months of getting very much into Foxtrot. "Stagnation", "Can-Utility...", "The Musical Box" and especially "Supper's Ready" are simply phenomenal. Where have I been?? |
No idea, but wherever it was it was most likely healthier then it is here 
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Rob The Good
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Posted: March 09 2005 at 21:10 |
Hehe...since I started this post, I have acquired Nursery Cryme, Trespass, Trick of the Tail, From Genesis To Revelation (historical curio! It was only $15NZ) and the Genesis Archives is on its way!
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Prog_head
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Posted: March 10 2005 at 06:21 |
Ah! a man of good taste! What did you think of Trespass?
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Possessed
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Posted: March 10 2005 at 15:01 |
Roan's Lady wrote:
I am lately getting very much into Trespass and Nursey Cryme, after a couple of months of getting very much into Foxtrot. "Stagnation", "Can-Utility...", "The Musical Box" and especially "Supper's Ready" are simply phenomenal. Where have I been?? |
Congratulations! Better late than never!
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Roan's Lady
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Posted: March 10 2005 at 18:12 |
Possessed wrote:
Roan's Lady wrote:
I am lately getting very much
into Trespass and Nursey Cryme, after a couple of months of getting
very much into Foxtrot. "Stagnation", "Can-Utility...", "The Musical
Box" and especially "Supper's Ready" are simply phenomenal. Where have
I been?? |
Congratulations! Better late than never! |
Thanks, Possessed! That's what I say! 
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Rob The Good
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Posted: March 10 2005 at 19:26 |
I thought Trespass was great. I do like Steve Hackett as a guitarist, but it was a nice change to hear Anthony Phillips. I like the sort of 'naive' and pastoral sound that the album has, especially on tracks like White Mountain and Stagnation. I now need to get 1973's Genesis Live to hear the live version of The Knife (great song).
I really like Foxtrot, but I think I prefer Trespass. Probably because they were the same age as me when they did it!
I guess the next port of call is some of Anthony Phillips' solo material, if I can find it!
Edited by Rob The Good
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Posted: March 10 2005 at 19:31 |
Rob The Good wrote:
I guess the next port of call is some of Anthony Phillips' solo material, if I can find it!
Buy this Rob..soon put you off the idea..
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Titan
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Posted: March 10 2005 at 20:51 |
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i like all albums including FGTR and archive, Genesis 67-77 is the best prog rock music what i have heard....
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 10 2005 at 21:10 |
Rob the Good wrote:
I guess the next port of call is some of Anthony Phillips' solo material, if I can find it!  |
Try with this one:
The Geeese and the Ghost
By far his best release, very progressive with a clear Genesis influence, and it's easy to find.
Iván
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