The American Politics Thread

BaldJean: I see where you're coming from, but I can't believe that Trump would even consider not appearing on TV for any reason at all.


Edited by npjnpj - October 02 2020 at 02:39

Lewian wrote: I don't think he'd fake that, it doesn't serve the image that he'd like to have.

Anyway, now we will see if injecting Lysol and bleach really works.

Re Man with Hat:

"And to your other point, EM, its quite true that the Don isn't a conservative. But he is definitely packing the court with conservatives (and I don't just mean the supreme court) and championing causes that conservatives like, so they will roll with him. At the end of the day, the results are what matter most."

What you are saying is similar to what I have been saying. He has usurped the conservative movement for his own means and the social conservatives and the religious conservatives like him for it, but the economic conservatives and the Libertarians don't like him and never will. National Review for example is outspoken in their disgust for him.
I prefer to call donald a con artist, because that is what he is.

Edited by Easy Money - October 02 2020 at 06:06

I think EM will relate to this article because it speaks to some of what he has been saying.  Though these conservatives come at it more from a religious perspective that expresses horror at how Trump conducts itself...but the aspect of Republicans not being for fiscal responsibility at all is also discussed. 

Easy Money wrote: Re Roger and Hat Man: Let me explain what I am saying thi8s way. I spend time on local social sites discussing trump with conservatives. My goal is to undermine trump's credentials as a conservative to other conservatives. If you take away trump's fake conservative credentials, all that is left is that he is a fraud and a con artist. When you let trump claim a conservative mantle, then you have empowered him and played into his con game.

Man With Hat wrote: Lewian wrote: I don't think he'd fake that, it doesn't serve the image that he'd like to have. I'll admit this crossed my mind as well. This way he can get it, not have any symptoms, get over it quickly and say it's no big deal. (Or say he is taking hydroxychloroquine again and that spurred his miraculous recovery.)  That said...I do think he did actually tested positive. My first thought was I hope Biden was far enough away from him on tuesday.

It'll be interesting to see how much of the staff and traveling party end up testing positive. The RNC chairwoman also tested positive. Negative for Jared and Ivanka. It's reported that Hope Hicks is exhibiting symptoms, which means she may have had it for around a week. Latest is that Trump is starting to show mild symptoms. Given how much they had been traveling around without masking much, I wonder if they can get any meaningful contact tracing done. Weren't they supposed to be constantly testing in the White House?

SteveG wrote: Easy Money wrote: rogerthat wrote: Easy Money wrote: Re Roger and Hat Man: Let me explain what I am saying thi8s way. I spend time on local social sites discussing trump with conservatives. My goal is to undermine trump's credentials as a conservative to other conservatives. If you take away trump's fake conservative credentials, all that is left is that he is a fraud and a con artist. When you let trump claim a conservative mantle, then you have empowered him and played into his con game. Right, basically get them to ignore partisan imperatives.  Should be an easy case to make when one considers that Trump wasn't even Republican for the longest time. Take away trump's fake conservatism and he has very little left to stand on. Buying into him as a conservative empowers him and gives him a large voting base. I'm not sure how calling Trump a fake conservatives makes him any less of a conservative when it comes to him towing the conservatives' line from coddling big business, to deregulation of government agencies to packing the courts with conservitive judges. He could have fooled me. But if it makes you feel better about being a conservitive then have at it.

I like to think my politics don't have a label, I'm pretty open minded and since trump's reign of error I prefer democrats to repubs on the national level. On the local level I vote for the best person irregardless of party and I know a lot of local politicians from both parties.
I am merely outlining the best way to undermine trump and stop him from being re-elected, and I do think he is a fraud and a con artist.

He's a crook who happens to have republican leanings (lately) because he's learnt that that's where the free tax money is.