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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 14:18
Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


if you don't mean to be a sad sack.. I won't mean being to be a prick.LOL   Whether you like or  don't like you doesn't matter a damn.  Those sub-genres exist to help those who don't know his music with a reference point to other artist who have a similar style.  Being in PR says jack sh*t about what he did musically or what he sounded like. We 'make up' these sub-genres to help sort out of these nearly 3000 bands.  It isn't a science.. .only a reference. 


Do you honestly believe that if a Peter Gabriel fan asked for similar bands, you would direct him to Radiohead or Mike Oldfield?

I was younger and more ignorant when I first came here, and I began to associate the bands here with the genre names here when talking to other prog fans, and they were confused as hell. In the real world, the sub-categorizing stops at progressive rock.


OK, so your solution would be..? Having everything together, so that a Peter Gabriel fan would find similar bands more easily?Confused

I really wonder at how easy it is for some people to criticise, even to try to destroy what others are working hard to create... It's true that some set too much store by categories, but is it really necessary to put things so unpleasantly? After all, you know how this site works... If those categories and classifications really get to you, you should try and find a site that only deals with 'progressive rock'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 14:18
Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


if you don't mean to be a sad sack.. I won't mean being to be a prick.LOL   Whether you like or  don't like you doesn't matter a damn.  Those sub-genres exist to help those who don't know his music with a reference point to other artist who have a similar style.  Being in PR says jack sh*t about what he did musically or what he sounded like. We 'make up' these sub-genres to help sort out of these nearly 3000 bands.  It isn't a science.. .only a reference. 


Do you honestly believe that if a Peter Gabriel fan asked for similar bands, you would direct him to Radiohead or Mike Oldfield?

I was younger and more ignorant when I first came here, and I began to associate the bands here with the genre names here when talking to other prog fans, and they were confused as hell. In the real world, the sub-categorizing stops at progressive rock.


of course not...  but unless we create another 20 subs we just do the best we can with these.  Sure it is confusing...  Raff got a ton of sh*t from another website, an Italian one for just that reason,  the sub-genres are not our call.  They are what the owner wants.. and so we do the best with it we can. This site is the number 1 prog site hands down... so we must be doing something right. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 14:08
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


if you don't mean to be a sad sack.. I won't mean being to be a prick.LOL   Whether you like or  don't like you doesn't matter a damn.  Those sub-genres exist to help those who don't know his music with a reference point to other artist who have a similar style.  Being in PR says jack sh*t about what he did musically or what he sounded like. We 'make up' these sub-genres to help sort out of these nearly 3000 bands.  It isn't a science.. .only a reference. 


Do you honestly believe that if a Peter Gabriel fan asked for similar bands, you would direct him to Radiohead or Mike Oldfield?

I was younger and more ignorant when I first came here, and I began to associate the bands here with the genre names here when talking to other prog fans, and they were confused as hell. In the real world, the sub-categorizing stops at progressive rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 13:07
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Definately!!!
 
Lets not get ahead of ourselves though and put Led Zeppelin in heavy prog. If we did that I would immediately leave!

No, now the priority is to get Bachman Turner Overdrive into heavy prog. Or conceive a new sub-genre called lumberjack prog. (eh)
Now back to that tractor trailer load of Moosehead that buddy has parked in his drive way Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 12:28
Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:

woopee. Gabriel's in some sub-genre of a sub-genre that we made up and now we're rejoicing.

I don't mean to be a sad sack here, but as long as Peter Gabriel is recognized or even on the site for that matter, why does it matter whether he's in the related section of the new so-called "crossover" section?
I like him a good deal, but I couldn't care less whether he's called Eclectic Crossover Progressive Rock or just plain Pop.


if you don't mean to be a sad sack.. I won't mean being to be a prick.LOL   Whether you like or  don't like you doesn't matter a damn.  Those sub-genres exist to help those who don't know his music with a reference point to other artist who have a similar style.  Being in PR says jack sh*t about what he did musically or what he sounded like. We 'make up' these sub-genres to help sort out of these nearly 3000 bands.  It isn't a science.. .only a reference. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 10:49
woopee. Gabriel's in some sub-genre of a sub-genre that we made up and now we're rejoicing.

I don't mean to be a sad sack here, but as long as Peter Gabriel is recognized or even on the site for that matter, why does it matter whether he's in the related section of the new so-called "crossover" section?
I like him a good deal, but I couldn't care less whether he's called Eclectic Crossover Progressive Rock or just plain Pop.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 08:15
Originally posted by Passionist Passionist wrote:

Now there's a way to get the needed apathy and negativiness back to PA! Big%20smile


Thumbs%20Up  that is where the fun is LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:48
Now there's a way to get the needed apathy and negativiness back to PA! Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:35
Originally posted by Passionist Passionist wrote:

Heh, another spot free in the prog-related :) No, I'm hapy with this move.

/me goes on his rampage for adding björk to PA ;)


funny you mention Bjork...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:34
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

yes yes, very nice move...though I won't enjoy his music any more or less.
 
 
 
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the hell with this....a move that people like.  We can't be having any of that...  moving him back to PR.  Listening to you all bitch about this stuff is much more fun LOL


As usual, I miss all the fun due to my different timesCry.... I can't believe my eyes, though! Somebody who's actually HAPPY at one of our decisions... What's the world (i.e. PA) coming to?WinkTongueLOL


 

 

there will always be complainers looming about, but there are still many of us who appreciate the many little things that are less noticeable, so I hope you collabs don't feel like we by-standers are looking to piss on everything that is done (ahem....micky and Raff.......some of us are actually happy to have BOC hereLOLThumbs%20Up


did that sound like to be a request to have BOC moved?...  LOLLOLWink

peace and love is great in life...

but PA's isn't life.... we'lll try to do better next time everyone... hopefully the next one moved will meet with a bit more antipathy. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:10
Heh, another spot free in the prog-related :) No, I'm hapy with this move.

/me goes on his rampage for adding björk to PA ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 07:03
I suppose it's only fair to place him in this category, since he has opined that the whole progressive thing was all about mixing up different genres to see which combinations worked and which didn't.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 05:13
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the hell with this....a move that people like.  We can't be
having any of that...  moving him back to PR.  Listening to
you all bitch about this stuff is much more fun LOL
You're getting cynical in your old age micky.Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 05:09
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the hell with this....a move that people like.  We can't be having any of that...  moving him back to PR.  Listening to you all bitch about this stuff is much more fun LOL

You're getting cynical in your old age micky.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:44
yes yes, very nice move...though I won't enjoy his music any more or less.
 
 
 
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the hell with this....a move that people like.  We can't be having any of that...  moving him back to PR.  Listening to you all bitch about this stuff is much more fun LOL


As usual, I miss all the fun due to my different timesCry.... I can't believe my eyes, though! Somebody who's actually HAPPY at one of our decisions... What's the world (i.e. PA) coming to?WinkTongueLOL
 

 

there will always be complainers looming about, but there are still many of us who appreciate the many little things that are less noticeable, so I hope you collabs don't feel like we by-standers are looking to piss on everything that is done (ahem....micky and Raff.......some of us are actually happy to have BOC hereLOLThumbs%20Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:31
A move that's (almost) congratulated by everyone!! What a happy moment!! I'm all tears of joy. CryCry

Excellent move, it was bound to happen. Thumbs%20UpClapTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:27
Great!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:10
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

So when Peter said he left Genesis to write pop songs, what did that mean? ;-)


It means Gabriel, as usual, was playing by his own rules.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2007 at 23:47
So when Peter said he left Genesis to write pop songs, what did that mean? ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2007 at 23:15
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the hell with this....a move that people like.  We can't be having any of that...  moving him back to PR.  Listening to you all bitch about this stuff is much more fun LOL


As usual, I miss all the fun due to my different timesCry.... I can't believe my eyes, though! Somebody who's actually HAPPY at one of our decisions... What's the world (i.e. PA) coming to?WinkTongueLOL
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