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    Posted: December 12 2008 at 23:22
Hi, I was just wondering if you would be willing to fill out a short survey about progressive rock. I hope this isn't considered spamming or anything of that nature; if it is, I'm sorry. I just needed a place where I could survey a bunch of prog fans, and this seemed to be the best place to do it. For this survey, I want you to imagine your perfect album. This doesn't have to be a real album or even necessarily a prog album. Just imagine what the ideal album would be in your mind, and then answer some questions related to it. The questions are multiple choice, but feel free to elaborate if you so desire. Be honest, for my benefit. There are no right or wrong answers. Just copy and paste the survey into your reply and bold the chosen answer. Thank you very much for your time.

Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument
No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced

And that's it. Thanks again for your time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2008 at 23:32
Originally posted by Mr. Chill Mr. Chill wrote:



Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:

60-70 minutes


Concept Album?:

Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs

Mood of the music:

A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:

7-10 minutes


Should there be a 15+ minute song?

No

Lyrics:
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs


Guitars or Keyboards?:
Keys, but guitar dominated


Sound:
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout


Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert


Structure of album:
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected


Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole


And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar (and bass guitar)


Are you currently in a band?:
No, but I have been in the past


Knowledge of music theory?:

Moderate
Although advanced in particular areas, but lacking in many others, averaged out to Moderate.



This kinda indicates what I was feeling at the time (except the about me bit, which is all true) and not necessarily how I feel all the time, but regardless, I hope my contribution helps.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2008 at 23:42
Oh this looks like fun.

Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs (there's a limit to this though)
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes (but not if it's forced)
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated (although if you have a Theo Travis or Jackson then sax should be at the front ;)
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording (although Todd Rundgren's Utopia was able to do both)

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument
No (I play the Video camera )

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
(and yet I'm one of the people judging the music )
Moderate
Advanced
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 00:08

Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
50-60 minutes

Concept Album?:
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other
but I would like to say either

Mood of the music:
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
5-7 minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes

Lyrics:
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs

Guitars or Keyboards?:
Even split between keys and guitars

Sound:
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout

Live or CD?:
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
No, unless you count the jug or spoons

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes, Panda Uber Alles

Knowledge of music theory?:
Limited to none

And that's it. Thanks again for your time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 00:16
Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument

No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced
 
 
I'd like to say that in the mood question, had there not been sad or depressing, I probably would have picked "Dark" as the mood. I don't like depressing music, but I definetely like most of my music to be overly dark.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 00:40
Originally posted by Mr. Chill Mr. Chill wrote:

Just copy and paste the survey into your reply and bold the chosen answer. Thank you very much for your time.

Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes
 
(normally I would say "as long as the good music lasts", but this time I'll chose a legal option Tongue)

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)
 
(though it totally depends on the album. Still, I find the concept albums to be the most enjoyable)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other
 
(if not overdone, this increases the coherence of an album)

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

(totally depends on my mood)


Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two
(though all options have something enjoyable)

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition
 
(though longer songs do much better with the third option)

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument
No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

(some jamming with drummer or guitarist, but nothing "serious")

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced

And that's it. Thanks again for your time.

Finally! Tongue


Edited by Luke. J - December 13 2008 at 00:41
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 01:04
Originally posted by Mr. Chill Mr. Chill wrote:


Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes Make it 60-70 if it's DT, 20 if it's Sigur Ros.
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form) I like them all but sometime concept albums are too nonsensical and no-concept albums too erratic.
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other              Both work for me.


Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods   i can't take a whole "happy album" and if it had to be one extreme, I'd rather take the sad one.

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes  YES, I SAID IT. Give me fantastic "Can utility and the Coast-liners" over 20-minute nonsense every day. But there are many, many GREAT long songs.
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes   My second choice.
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No          I mean, if it's good i want it. If it's just for the sake of addding an elephant to an album, then no.  

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs       Give me 95% with lyrics, and ONE instrumental. For instrumental music I prefer other genres like classical.
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars    Anything really.
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout

Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording   In this case is 110% absolute.

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone


And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument   Drums, self-taught. Good for rock, metal and related.
 No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none    Much more than the average Joe, much less than the average Joe the Musician.
Moderate
Advanced

And that's it. Thanks again for your time.


Edited by The T - December 13 2008 at 01:06
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 01:21


Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods (though probably a slight more negative)

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument
No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none (probably a bit more in between limited and moderate...like the basics...unless thats just considered limited Tongue)
Moderate
Advanced

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 02:20
Originally posted by Mr. Chill Mr. Chill wrote:



Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument
No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced

And that's it. Thanks again for your time.


Thanks for the opportunity!  Basically, a lot of Gabriel-era Genesis, 1970s Yes and Fish-era Marillion was going through my brain as I answered your survey...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 02:55
Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other
Somewhere in the middle TBH...

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes (IF THE SONG IS GOOD!)
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument

No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 08:02
Originally posted by Mr. Chill Mr. Chill wrote:

Hi, I was just wondering if you would be willing to fill out a short survey about progressive rock. I hope this isn't considered spamming or anything of that nature; if it is, I'm sorry. I just needed a place where I could survey a bunch of prog fans, and this seemed to be the best place to do it. For this survey, I want you to imagine your perfect album. This doesn't have to be a real album or even necessarily a prog album. Just imagine what the ideal album would be in your mind, and then answer some questions related to it. The questions are multiple choice, but feel free to elaborate if you so desire. Be honest, for my benefit. There are no right or wrong answers. Just copy and paste the survey into your reply and bold the chosen answer. Thank you very much for your time.

Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly Conceptual
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other-caveat most of the time

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods.

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing but also some pure instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
Even split between guitars and keyboards
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two.

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unconstructed....................
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks...................

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can.........................
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?

That each song can stand alone
The Album works as a whole.
And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument
NO

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced

And that's it. Thanks again for your time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 08:16
Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
40-50 minutes

Concept Album?:
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs

Mood of the music:
Sad, dark, depressing

Average Song Length:
5-7 minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
No

Lyrics:
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
Guitar, but keyboard dominated

Sound:
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once

Structure of individual songs:
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next

Which is more important?
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
No

Are you currently in a band?:
No

Knowledge of music theory?:
Limited to none

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 08:42
Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes A mix between these 3.
7-10 minutes

10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument
No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 10:03
Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes
50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes
No

Lyrics:
None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument (alto sax)
No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 11:04
Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:

40-50 minutes

Concept Album?:
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs

Mood of the music:
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
7-10 minutes


Should there be a 15+ minute song?

Maybe

Lyrics:
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs

Guitars or Keyboards?:
Even split between keys and guitars


Sound:
A happy medium between the two


Structure of individual songs:
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout


Live or CD?:
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next



Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole


And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
No

Are you currently in a band?:
No

Knowledge of music theory?:

Limited to none


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 11:12
Album Length:
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs

Mood of the music:
Sad, dark, depressing

Average Song Length:
7-10 minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
No

Lyrics:
All songs should have lyrics (maybe one instrumental?)

Guitars or Keyboards?:
Keys, but guitar dominated

Sound:
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout

Live or CD?:
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected

Which is more important?
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes

Knowledge of music theory?:
Moderate

And that's it. Thanks again for your time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 11:17
Originally posted by Mr. Chill Mr. Chill wrote:



MovingPictures07


Considering your ideal album:
Album Length:
Under 40 minutes
40-50 minutes

50-60 minutes
60-70 minutes
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)
No concept (songs have no intentional connecting theme)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Happy, upbeat, humorous
Sad, dark, depressing
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes
5-7 minutes
7-10 minutes
10+ minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?

Yes
No

Lyrics:

None (Instrumental music and/or wordless vocalizations such as humming)
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs
All songs should have lyrics

Guitars or Keyboards?:
No keys
Keys, but guitar dominated
Even split between keys and guitars
Guitar, but keyboard dominated
No guitars

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation
Dense, dissonant, many different instruments playing different, often clashing, parts at once
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Verse-chorus-verse structure
Largely verse-chorus-verse, but with occasional deviations
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout
Little to no structure or repetition

Live or CD?:
The spontaneity and atmosphere (rawness) of a live concert
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
All songs should lead directly into the next
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected
Songs should have endings and not flow into the next song

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano
Yes, other instrument

No

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes
No, but I have been in the past
No

Knowledge of music theory?:
Limited to none
Moderate
Advanced

And that's it. Thanks again for your time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 11:17
Album Length:
70-80 minutes

Concept Album?:
Full concept album (plot, characters, etc.)

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs

Mood of the music:
Sad, dark, depressing

Average Song Length:
7-10 minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
No

Lyrics:
All songs should have lyrics (maybe one instrumental?)

Guitars or Keyboards?:
Keys, but guitar dominated

Sound:
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout

Live or CD?:
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected

Which is more important?
That each song can stand alone

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar
Yes, keyboard/piano

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes

Knowledge of music theory?:
Moderate
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 13:03
Considering your ideal album:

Album Length:
60-70 minutes

Concept Album?:
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form

Motifs:
There should be melodies/lyrics shared across songs

Mood of the music:
A mix of positive and negative moods

Average Song Length:
3-5 minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes

Lyrics:
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs

Guitars or Keyboards?:
Even split between keys and guitars

Sound:
A happy medium between the two

Structure of individual songs:
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout

Live or CD?:
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
Yes, guitar

Are you currently in a band?:
Yes

Knowledge of music theory?:
Moderate
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2008 at 13:11
Album Length:
50-60 minutes

Concept Album?:
Slightly conceptual (songs have common themes, but not in story form)

Motifs:
Songs should be unique and not reference each other

Mood of the music:
Sad, dark, depressing

Average Song Length:
7-10 minutes

Should there be a 15+ minute song?
Yes

Lyrics:
Lyrical singing, but also some purely instrumental songs

Guitars or Keyboards?:
Keys, but guitar dominated

Sound:
Minimalistic, not too many instruments at once, sparse instrumentation

Structure of individual songs:
Largely unstructured, but with repeating sections or melodies throughout

Live or CD?:
The perfection and studio tricks of the studio recording

Structure of album:
Some songs can, but not good if the whole album is connected

Which is more important?
That the album works as a whole

And finally a few questions about you

Do you play an instrument at a level at which you could entertain with it?:
No

Are you currently in a band?:
No

Knowledge of music theory?:
Limited to none

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