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rushfan4 
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 Posted: September 08 2016 at 16:13 |
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I've seen Lions' predictions as bold as 12 and 4 and as bad as 3 and 13. Being the optimistic pessimist that I am 4 and 12 sounds about right to me.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 08 2016 at 14:34 |
Well, being hours away from kickoff I suppose I can't delay making predictions now.
In order:
NFC: Packers Cardinals Panthers Giants Seahawks Buccaneers
AFC: Steelers Patriots Colts Raiders Texans Bengals
Attempts to save face: Both the NFC east and AFC west are wide open imo. The east, strictly for ineptitude. I hestitate to call for a giants win, and this is typically the type of environment that leads to the redskins getting the division crown, but I can't put in all the same teams from last year... The west...compelling arguments can be made for each team to win the division or finish 6-10 (or worse). I'll gamble on upside this year.
The last wildcard spots should be fun in both divisions. No one really stands out as a favorite in my eye. I'll give it tov upside in the NFC and the ol' stalwarts in the AFC. (Though part of me wanted to put the jags in there...I suspect they are a year away)
Looking forward to 2016,.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 04 2016 at 13:18 |
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BUMP
Pre season is on. Doesn't mean a thing to me except that real football is around the corner!
I've heard alot of mockery at the idea of Sanchez leading the Broncos, how terrible they'll be etc etc I can't believe how blinded by QBs we truly are. Has everyone forgotten/ignored Peyton was garbage the entire season? Got dragged to a title by that elite defense, strong run game and dual WR threat. Thomas and Sanders, CJ Anderson are still there. Von Miller, Ware, Talib, Harris most of the defense is still there.
Sanchez may do fine. While he needs the perfect set up, we've seen he can be competent when given this. He's the worst pressure passer ever....literally one defender closing the pocket makes him fall apart so I think that may doom him, but really the Broncos may be quite fine. Sanchez, with this team, can't be as bad as Peyton.
I'm pretty much purely "wait and see" on my Giants. We all know the offense will be fine, it's all on whether the never ending disaster of defense and O line can be solved. The addition of Jenkins, Harrison and Vernon has to shore up our d line and secondary a bit. DRC was a long bright spot, if Jenkins can play well, (let's see what Eli Apple does) secondary may be OK. JPP played as well as one could expect from a guy who now has 8.5 fingers, fell totally out of playing shape and missed half the season. We shall see if he can improve at all. My guess is a bit but putting little stock into him.
O line has me gravely concerned. Beatty was injury prone but a stud, with him gone our tackles are now forced to be Flowers and Newhouse. I will give Flowers botd of being of a RT thrust into starting LT, and hope he develops. Newhouse is awful. John Jerry, total garbage. Pugh and Richburg, very good. So I have faith in 2/5. Possibly we can get 3 good ones this year. This is at best though, 3 out of 5 with two utter trash. Oi...
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Ol buttfumble didn't even make the team...I think that says alot about how bad he wwould've been. Also...the NFC east will be interesting this year, yet again, thanks to ineptitude. No idea who to call it with, but these are the conditions were theredskins usually make the playoffs.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 04 2016 at 13:15 |
What they gave up for Bradford indicates to me that Tteddy Bs injury might be more severe than reported.
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AEProgman
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Posted: September 04 2016 at 07:30 |
Its about to begin!
Interesting trades and pickups yesterday, Bradford to the Vikings (tough break for them and Bridgewater). Sanchez cut by Broncos and signs with the Cowboys as backup for now.
Picks for playoffs in no particular order: AFC Steelers  Patriots Colts Chiefs Bengals Broncos or Jags?
NFC Redskins Packers Panthers Seahawks Cardinals Vikings (still give them a shot)
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 23 2016 at 00:06 |
BUMP
Pre season is on. Doesn't mean a thing to me except that real football is around the corner!
I've heard alot of mockery at the idea of Sanchez leading the Broncos, how terrible they'll be etc etc I can't believe how blinded by QBs we truly are. Has everyone forgotten/ignored Peyton was garbage the entire season? Got dragged to a title by that elite defense, strong run game and dual WR threat. Thomas and Sanders, CJ Anderson are still there. Von Miller, Ware, Talib, Harris most of the defense is still there.
Sanchez may do fine. While he needs the perfect set up, we've seen he can be competent when given this. He's the worst pressure passer ever....literally one defender closing the pocket makes him fall apart so I think that may doom him, but really the Broncos may be quite fine. Sanchez, with this team, can't be as bad as Peyton.
I'm pretty much purely "wait and see" on my Giants. We all know the offense will be fine, it's all on whether the never ending disaster of defense and O line can be solved. The addition of Jenkins, Harrison and Vernon has to shore up our d line and secondary a bit. DRC was a long bright spot, if Jenkins can play well, (let's see what Eli Apple does) secondary may be OK. JPP played as well as one could expect from a guy who now has 8.5 fingers, fell totally out of playing shape and missed half the season. We shall see if he can improve at all. My guess is a bit but putting little stock into him.
O line has me gravely concerned. Beatty was injury prone but a stud, with him gone our tackles are now forced to be Flowers and Newhouse. I will give Flowers botd of being of a RT thrust into starting LT, and hope he develops. Newhouse is awful. John Jerry, total garbage. Pugh and Richburg, very good. So I have faith in 2/5. Possibly we can get 3 good ones this year. This is at best though, 3 out of 5 with two utter trash. Oi...
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Posted: June 26 2016 at 12:06 |
Plankowner wrote:
Here's an interesting draft report from Brett on Hackenberg
His OL was absolutely dismal .. I have hopes for him.
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Yeah his freshman year at Penn State he was setting records, looked like a legit pocket QB with confidence, poise, and I believe was #2 or 3 in the nation on deep balls. He had a great o line and a pretty darn good coach in someone named Bill O Brien that was from some team called the NE Patriots 
His O line deff went to crap after, (fun fact in a game against Temple one play made our FB pages where two d-linemen managed to get through our line of 5 and sack Hackenberg...) and our play calling went to crap as well after O Brien. Very predictable, stale, plays were often not well designed even and he didnt seem to utilize our players well, but instead force schemes on them.
Shame what it did to Hack
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 26 2016 at 12:02 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Was a little disappointed to see them take a WR in the 2nd round, but went safety in the 3rd so that's good. I'm sure this guy from Oklahoma will work out, with the exception of Randle...Giants seem to do well in picking WRsHere's hoping they can get some pass rush.
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Dude that WR is a stud and you have one worthwhile skill player on your offense. I think you should be megahyped.
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Oh its more that I know nothing of college football. I used to follow it/know more a bit when I was going but since graduating....if you're not one of the TOP names that gets like national attention, I have no idea who anyone is. Never heard of Odell Beckham before So that's all. Hey we need another WR outside ODB so if he turns out to be a stud, I'll be elated.
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Plankowner
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Posted: June 26 2016 at 10:32 |
Here's an interesting draft report from Brett on Hackenberg
His OL was absolutely dismal .. I have hopes for him.
Edited by Plankowner - June 26 2016 at 10:32
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 01 2016 at 08:17 |
JJLehto wrote:
Was a little disappointed to see them take a WR in the 2nd round, but went safety in the 3rd so that's good. I'm sure this guy from Oklahoma will work out, with the exception of Randle...Giants seem to do well in picking WRsHere's hoping they can get some pass rush.
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Dude that WR is a stud and you have one worthwhile skill player on your offense. I think you should be megahyped.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 30 2016 at 15:58 |
JJLehto wrote:
Other fun:Penn State QB Christian Hackenberg was taken by the Jets. Wonder if he's gunna be their long term, (or even short) answer.
Kid was breaking records and looked like a pro his freshman year, but that was with Bill O Brien as coach and a good O line. His next 2 years he got progressively worse and fell from beloved to despised by many. IDK...I saw a pretty crud o line in front of him and a new coach who seemed to change the system for the worse. If he's given a chance to play on the pretty darn good Jets team, we shall see!
Another interesting QB is Braxton Miller of Ohio State. Remember when the kid was a legend himself? Then an injury cost him a season, OSU won the title despite using their #2 and 3 then Miller was made a WR his last year? I see he was drafted as a WR but that'd be one crazy transition...wonder what'll become of him in the NFL?
I know a good kicker is a good thing to have but the Buccs taking a kicker in the 2nd round!? And trading up to do so!!?? Oh man |
I kinda like Hackenburg. Sure he plummeted quite impressively, but I can't imagine the promise and skill he showed in his first season just vanished completely. Lets see if the jets are the right team for him. Miller was drafted as a WR. so I assume he will try and learn the position. If nothing else he can be used for receiver throws and an emergency QB option if it all goes to hell again for the Texans. And love the aggressiveness for a kicker.  But no...that was probably unneeded. My guess is they thought NE would draft him (as it seems like a very NE thing to do) and wanted to get in front of them. We shall see if it turns out well. He was quite a beast in college. Speaking of QBs...the raiders trading up to select Connor Cook?! This seems like a slight misstep in a pretty good draft overall for them (at least the early rounds...no idea who else they picked today).
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 30 2016 at 15:53 |
Well, for the first time in team history that gmen did not draft an offensive nor defensive linemen. I guess this means Newhouse is here to stay.  they did snag a linebacker at least. Based on need and perceived value can't give the giants a great draft grade. I'm thinking a C at this point. Here's hoping JR knows what he is going. (Or blows it so bad he is fired at season's end.)
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JJLehto
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Posted: April 30 2016 at 01:43 |
Other fun: Penn State QB Christian Hackenberg was taken by the Jets. Wonder if he's gunna be their long term, (or even short) answer.
Kid was breaking records and looked like a pro his freshman year, but that was with Bill O Brien as coach and a good O line. His next 2 years he got progressively worse and fell from beloved to despised by many. IDK...I saw a pretty crud o line in front of him and a new coach who seemed to change the system for the worse. If he's given a chance to play on the pretty darn good Jets team, we shall see!
Another interesting QB is Braxton Miller of Ohio State. Remember when the kid was a legend himself? Then an injury cost him a season, OSU won the title despite using their #2 and 3 then Miller was made a WR his last year? I see he was drafted as a WR but that'd be one crazy transition...wonder what'll become of him in the NFL?
I know a good kicker is a good thing to have but the Buccs taking a kicker in the 2nd round!? And trading up to do so!!?? Oh man |
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Posted: April 30 2016 at 00:37 |
Was a little disappointed to see them take a WR in the 2nd round, but went safety in the 3rd so that's good. I'm sure this guy from Oklahoma will work out, with the exception of Randle...Giants seem to do well in picking WRsHere's hoping they can get some pass rush.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 30 2016 at 00:03 |
Or they can take another slot receiver. At least the third round pick addressed a position of need.
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Posted: April 29 2016 at 14:09 |
^ Yeah...and the defense is terrible, so that's the main thing that I like about it. It's just at the 10th overall pick building depth shouldn't be the focus. It should be getting an impact player.
I read somewhere online that they wanted the LB Floyd (which was taken one pick ahead of them). Could be a smokescreen, but if it was true might have sent a slight bit of panic through the warroom. Ok sure, I just don't trust JR at the moment, so perhaps I'm being unfair with that comment.
Some good players still in play. I like the LB Ragland from Alabama, as well as both DTs. Not sure who will be in play 9 picks in, but it seems the giants might have some choices to get a good impact player (not resisted to the three I mentioned above of course).
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JJLehto
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Posted: April 29 2016 at 02:14 |
Yeah, I was never the biggest follower of college football while in college, since being done my knowledge has fallen to near 0 outside the few superstar names. So I pretty much rely on position and school, which I grant isn't the best way
Just glad they went defense. As I've said a defense/O line focus would make me happy. Agreed though, really gotta look to pass rusher and LB now
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Posted: April 28 2016 at 22:59 |
Meh. Bit of a reach IMO...especially at a position that isn't the biggest need on defense. I'll go on record to say they should of took Tunsil, but I assume they removed him from the board with his pot video being released.
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Posted: April 28 2016 at 21:12 |
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Well, I know nothing about this Eli Apple but 1: His name is epic. 2: I applaud the fact they went with a cornerback. 3: From Ohio State so I feel pretty good
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Posted: April 28 2016 at 07:38 |
Man With Hat wrote:
The 2016 draft will be kicking off in just over 24 hours. Anyone care to make predictions (or express hope) for their teams take this year??
How does out resident eagles fan(s?) feel about the trade up to #2? How does out resident the-rams-are-my-number-two-team feel about the trade up to #1? |
The Rams big trade made more sense than the Eagles big trade. The Rams made the good trade deal for a bunch of picks a few years ago with Washington (RG3) and left them in a position to make the plunge this year...believe this is Fisher's last gasp to get over the top with the Rams, so he had nothing to lose.
The Eagles one a little bit of a surprise to me, since they still have Bradford (now whining) and I think they also signed Chase Daniel. It is assumed they will draft Wentz as the Rams appear to be drafting Goff, I think both are not worth this much of a trade, but you never know anymore. The Browns won out in this deal as they never have good luck picking QBs, so may as well trade down and get more picks.
I guess my Steelers will go for a DB or Safety as we seem to always struggle in the defensive backfield. We pick 25th in round 1.
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