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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:36
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Snow Dog: TECHNICAL FOUL
 
You had to use the object pronoun "him" in that final line. Grammatical cheat, you are disqualified.
 
I WIN. I AM THE BEST BATTLE RAPPER LOGGED IN TO PROGARCHIVES AT MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAY.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:34
Snow Dog: TECHNICAL FOUL
 
You had to use the object pronoun "him" in that final line. Grammatical cheat, you are disqualified.
 
I WIN. I AM THE BEST BATTLE RAPPER LOGGED IN TO PROGARCHIVES AT MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAY.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:33
Exactly. I mean that's mostly how I find out about new bands.
 
I don't get people who read a post like mine and go "THIS POOR MAN IS OBVIOUSLY QUITE INSANE. HONESTLY, THE VERY IDEA THAT AN ART FORM SUCH AS HIP-HOP WHICH IS LOVED BY MILLIONS AND BEEN CONSISTENTLY POPULAR FOR THREE DECADES MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER ANYBODY. WHAT NONSENSE." I don't get why they're even reading a forum like this because they've already decided not to even try to learn anything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:32
Textbook, a poster you see,
Made threads that shouted out "ME"
The attention he got
Whether due him or not,
Resulted in banning for he.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:29
Honestly, Beastie Boys aren't exactly my cup of tea, but I like to read posts from people who are excited and detailed about bands they love. It sometimes gives me pause for reconsideration.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:24
Catfood: Yeah I think it's actually quite depressing that on a "progressive" forum, people here not only don't go outside their music comfort zones but PROUDLY ADVERTISE IT. What is up with that? I've said before that I think quite a few people here are posers and actually very, very, conservative about music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:23
Pure class.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:22
There was a poster named Snow Dog
Who not only dabbled in prog
But limerick rap
Which was lyrical crap
And his grandma had sex with a frog
And he once pinched a cop on his knob
And he sang like a sodomised hog
Which stank worse than a Scottish pub's bog
 
I knew I'd get it.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:22
This IS the "General Music Discussions" forum, is it not? A Beastie Boy discussion is quite welcome here.

Nobody blasted me for a Prince thread I started here a few weeks ago... no one replied either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:16
I quite like that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:12
A member from Germany was cool
He trolled a thread like a fool
After being beat down, 
He said like a clown
"What can I say, I'm a tool"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:08
What can I say? I'm a tool  Big smile Big smile Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 07:05

It's so interesting that you suggest I should keep my musical opinions to myself because they're not the accepted norm on the forum.

 
Progressive this is Dean, Dean this is progressive.
 
Now is this a progressive forum or a let's-all-pretend-to-be-openminded-while-actually-being-totally-straitjacketed-in-our-tastes forum?
 
You don't have to like the Beastie Boys. But you do have to read my initial post here and respond to the content of it, rather than tell me it's inadvisable to voice opinions others might not share, at least if you want to have a conversation in this thread rather than just make yourself feel clever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 06:59
The problem here is the inital premis is only of significance to you. Whether what you say is true or a crock is of little importance to the vast majority here (I was going to say "anyone" but I think there are perhaps one or two who may agree with you up to a point), so being agressive about it isn't going to enlighten anyone anytime soon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 06:58
There was a young teacher from Aus
Who argued and argued because
His message of rap, 
of hip hop  n' all that
Made us run back to our Prog.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 06:46
And ANOTHER THING, NO, prog does not necessitate the rejection of any genre. Ooh but prog musicians reject pop elements right? Um, no, meet crossover prog. YOU necessitate the rejection of genres because you need to exclude to feel good probably because you yourself get excluded for acting like a dick a la this thread and f**k it, I'm going to battle you, this is straight off the top of my head:
 
I understand rap, I heard it, I know it
It's the words of poets, you're absurd you show it
You jump to conclusions, you chump, you're confusin'
Your snobbish delusions with the music I'm usin'
To give my life fusion
To keep my mind movin' to new places, new faces
Mixing the races, in rap I find traces
Of shared mental spaces, of hope and despair
Desire and fear
On the radio you hear
Rap that's shallow and boring
But Nickleback has 'em snoring
It's all commercial, rap's not the exception
This a self deception to give you a perception that your taste is perfection
Rap helps me to manage my mind and my language
It's speed and it's skill
It's dope and it's ill
New idioms fill, my thoughts and my mind
I feel like I was blind, all the new ways I find
To write and to rhyme, to string words together
In ways witty and clever, prosaic? Never
So go to a cypher, see if you survive for
Five seconds I reckon that's all you can strive for
Words you must study or you'll end up bloody
Battered and bruised as my bars beat your body
I know my nouns and my adjectives, this you can quote
I may be dope but you are a dope
 
Come at me anytime npjnpj.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 06:33
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

probably true, but I'd have to look up the word 'juxtapositions' but can't be bothered.

 
Oh my god. I use a word you don't know, your reaction is to not look it up, but just march over it in arrogance and complacency. I talk about music you don't know, you write it off because to acknowledge that it might have value you don't appreciate is too much for your fragile ego. If I use a word you don't know, same deal because if you don't know it, it's not worth knowing, right? What a sad, backwards little mind you must have.
If you're not playing a character to incite me, and I don't think you are, then you're not very bright. I suggest you not engage me further as we're not in the same weight class. Just being honest.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 06:29
I mean the other day someone started a Coldplay thread and I piled into them because I think Coldplay are horrendous. But I never said "You are not allowed to talk about Coldplay on this forum." The guy wanted to know how people felt about Coldplay, I feel negatively about them, I expressed that and more importantly, explained why and offered alternative music I felt was similar but superior, in that case Elbow. The problem isn't you disagreeing with me npjnpj, it's you doing it like a clown.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 06:25

I don't think anybody here takes someone who judges music they haven't heard particularly seriously.  ->  true, but nowadays how can anyone avoid hearing it?

Also, your complete failure to address anything I said shows your post is just a mindless, knee-jerk reaction to the term hip-hop -> Also true, although I object to the term 'mindless'.

to make your point valid, you would have to argue that the juxtapositions I attributed to the Beastie Boys are mundane or worthless, which you didn't do and almost certainly aren't going to ->  probably true, but I'd have to look up the word 'juxtapositions' but can't be bothered.

as it's a core part of your self worth that you proclaim every music form you don't understand or appreciate as trash in order to convince yourself that your ignorance and inability to address this ignorance is a strength -> pure assumption. Although it's true that I proclaim hip-hop (and rap) to be trash, there are a lot of music forms I neither understand or appreciate but would never label as trash because I recognize their cultural and/or artistic value. This does not apply here though.

Additionally, genre-rejection is the absolute antithesis of the prog mindset so why on earth are you on this forum? -> Untrue, I think you'll find that many possessing the 'prog mindset' reject some genre or another. According to your wording having a 'prog mindset' would ultimately mean embracing any and every genre in existence, even tripe like hip-hop, just to mention a completely unrelated example.

I believe a rare but well deserved "f**k you" has been earned and I declare you officially owned, how you like me now. -> Yowsa!
 
Come on now, Textbook, we've had this discussion before. We agree to disagree. But your repeated efforts to get hip-hop and rap onto this prog site is a bit jarring, you have to admit.  Anyway, I wouldn't usually do this, but you're just such an easy target, 'cause face it: you ju' not COOOOl enough, man.

Just having a bit of fun 'cause I'm bored.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2012 at 05:59
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Surely there must be a site somewhere that appreciates this kind of **** *** ***** ***** more than a prog site like this?



You can't say this about The Beastie Boys. They are f**king legendary. Mind you...I don't knbow what you *****  ***** *** said!Confused

I've seen some dross discussed in these general discussions so I have no problem with a Beastie Boys thread. Why exclude them above say.......Ah - Ha?


Edited by Snow Dog - April 13 2012 at 06:02
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