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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 12:39
Love it, Love it, Love it.

It'd consistency is so strong it even puts the thought of me liking it more than Signals in my head - and i think i'm listening to it ;o


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 10:43
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:



Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Crumple Crumple wrote:

Can the big 80s Rush fans rank the albums Grace Under Pressure through Roll the Bones for me?


Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
Hold Your Fire
Presto / Roll The Bones
(Tie)

GUP and PW are essential, IMO!


Totally agree with this ranking system. Grace under pressure is the best of the lot in my opinion.
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I couldn't ever get into GUP for some reason, i should try again..
Mine would go quite different. 
Hold Your Fire
Power Windows
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Presto
RTB
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Still a nice order cause its interesting to see such high praise for HYF.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 10:41
Originally posted by Crumple Crumple wrote:

I'm currently giving PW a serious listen for the first time since it came out. I've spun it 7 or 8 times all the way through in the last week.

When it came out it was the final departure for me for Rush for a while (until 1999 actually). Rush was my first love, and I preferred them heavier. I stuck with them through Signals and GUP (both of which I enjoyed a lot) but PW was a big let down for me.

At the time Priest, Maiden, VH, Metallica and so on were putting out the metal I loved.

And the "mainstream" rock was covered by the Police, U2, Bruce, John Cougar etc etc

New wave an anomaly and while I could find songs I enjoyed, it was never my preferred genre. I didn't expect Rush to have all these keyboards everywhere and it was disconcerting.

that said Manhattan Project I ALWAYS loved...what a gorgeous song.

As I listen now, I can say that it is growing on me. It does sound very dated...very 80s. I have visions of Alex in a button down shirt and skinny tie dancing around playing these wimpy rhythm guitar parts (not that I ever saw him do that or even know if he did, lol).

Or Molly Ringwald and company dancing like this:

breakfast club clip

But that aside, I am finding the textures and nuances to be enjoyable on repeated listens. I read somewhere about it being a "cold" album and I agree wholeheartedly...very electronic, very techno.

To me it will never, ever be close to Moving Pictures (which I consider to be one of the greatest albums of all time, by anyone) but I am slowly enjoying it.

Perhaps I'll move on to HYF in the coming weeks.

It's really cool to uncover old music from a band I've always loved and have the pleasure of discovering it as new


Well it's nice that you are having an open mind to do so and have some appreciation and understanding for PW given the time and popular sound wave boom it was produced in.
Give hold your fire and presto a go as well. Experience the entire 80's saga, then you will really know what you love from them. Enjoy. It's actually my favourite rush era.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 10:26
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Grace Under Pressure
Presto
Hold Your Fire
Power Windows
Roll the Bones

Granted, its been a while since I've heard PW, so it could move up in the list potentially.  RtB is the only one of the bunch, imo, that's a step down for the band, and it's still a good album.  Presto gets low ratings here but if you're willing to open your mind to a different kind of sound you can really learn to enjoy it.  It's one of Rush's most tasteful and mature albums and one of their best, I think.


It took me quite a while before I actually gave Presto a listen because of the many negative reviews it had. But I would tend to disagree with them. It's kind of a phenomenon in Rush's catalog, in that it's really eons different than every other album they've released.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 10:22
Grace Under Pressure
Presto
Hold Your Fire
Power Windows
Roll the Bones

Granted, its been a while since I've heard PW, so it could move up in the list potentially.  RtB is the only one of the bunch, imo, that's a step down for the band, and it's still a good album.  Presto gets low ratings here but if you're willing to open your mind to a different kind of sound you can really learn to enjoy it.  It's one of Rush's most tasteful and mature albums and one of their best, I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 10:04
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

T4E is patchy. That song, "Virtuality," isn't aging well.



Curious why you say this? I just posted about some other stuff sounding dated (but still enjoyable) but Virtuality sounds current to me.

Do you mean lyrically?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 10:01
^ yep I hear you on your love of Presto. that's what makes reviewing music so hard...no one can know the context in which people have bonded to music...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 09:21
Presto was the first album that they released while I was a fan, and it was the first time that I saw them on tour, so I have always had a special place in my heart for that one.  I had first heard Limelight and Tom Sawyer on pop radio when I was a kid as they invaded my Pop 40 radio station along with Yes' Owner of A Lonely Heart. I didn't like them at all back then.  It wasn't until 6 or 7 years later when a friend turned me onto them via 2112, and I bought Caress of Steel on CD that I became a fan. 

I'd say Grace Under Pressure is probably my 2nd favorite from this period.

Roll The Bones is 3rd. It was the first album that I bought from them on the day it was released, and I have done so with the rest of their studio albums since then.

I'd say Power Windows and Hold Your Fire would be 4th and 5th.  I love just about everything that they have done though, so that isn't really a bad thing. 
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I'm currently giving PW a serious listen for the first time since it came out. I've spun it 7 or 8 times all the way through in the last week.

When it came out it was the final departure for me for Rush for a while (until 1999 actually). Rush was my first love, and I preferred them heavier. I stuck with them through Signals and GUP (both of which I enjoyed a lot) but PW was a big let down for me.

At the time Priest, Maiden, VH, Metallica and so on were putting out the metal I loved.

And the "mainstream" rock was covered by the Police, U2, Bruce, John Cougar etc etc

New wave an anomaly and while I could find songs I enjoyed, it was never my preferred genre. I didn't expect Rush to have all these keyboards everywhere and it was disconcerting.

that said Manhattan Project I ALWAYS loved...what a gorgeous song.

As I listen now, I can say that it is growing on me. It does sound very dated...very 80s. I have visions of Alex in a button down shirt and skinny tie dancing around playing these wimpy rhythm guitar parts (not that I ever saw him do that or even know if he did, lol).

Or Molly Ringwald and company dancing like this:

breakfast club clip

But that aside, I am finding the textures and nuances to be enjoyable on repeated listens. I read somewhere about it being a "cold" album and I agree wholeheartedly...very electronic, very techno.

To me it will never, ever be close to Moving Pictures (which I consider to be one of the greatest albums of all time, by anyone) but I am slowly enjoying it.

Perhaps I'll move on to HYF in the coming weeks.

It's really cool to uncover old music from a band I've always loved and have the pleasure of discovering it as new

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 01:58
Grace under Pressure
Power Windows
Presto
Roll the Bones
Hold Your Fire

Power Windows used to be my favorite, but Grace under Pressure has reclaimed the spot as my favorite 80's Rush album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 17:07
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Hold Your Fire 
Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
Presto
Roll the Bones

Song wise, PW is as good as Moving Pictures.  the production is also quite dynamic, despite the 80s sound.  i love Distant Early Warning, but GUP just seems like the band was running out of ideas and quite tired.  They've even said so.  I personally love Presto, but Roll the Bones is not that amazing, aside from a few songs.  Take the good tunes from those albums and you'd have a killer mix.  In fact, I'm gonna do that tonight!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 14:10
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Crumple Crumple wrote:

Can the big 80s Rush fans rank the albums Grace Under Pressure through Roll the Bones for me?


Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
Hold Your Fire
Presto / Roll The Bones
(Tie)

GUP and PW are essential, IMO!


Totally agree with this ranking system. Grace under pressure is the best of the lot in my opinion.
Neal Peart drumming is wild!! I love Between The Wheels. He shows off like crazy. Just love it. Middle finger in the air! Lol

I couldn't ever get into GUP for some reason, i should try again..

Mine would go quite different. 

Hold Your Fire
Power Windows
GUP
Presto
RTB

:-3


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 13:47
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:



Their 70's period to their ∞ period is their best.......Big smile


Oh yeah. Wanna fight?

 
Don't need to.... ∞ trumps all


You know what the great thing is about RUSH is that they totally reshape their sound each decade they've been around.
It comes down to a generational thing where by its what you grew up with. I grew up with that 80's electric sound wave, so that is one reason why I am more pro 80's rush. The 70's were amazing to. The 90's were the worst, but Counterparts was brilliant. My favourite instrumental they ever did is on that album....LEAVE THAT GHING ALONE.


 
As far as I am concerned......This is why they are amazing. Part of it is marketing brilliance but most of it is that when you listen to interviews during the time of these changes, it is because they embrace the musical times. They incorporate what is being discovered by others and add their twist to make it a Rush sound...ala The Police, reggae = Spirit of Radio. Electronic music, synths, synth drums = Time Stand Still.....
 
But at the root of Rush is hard heavy rock/metal with large doses of progressive attributes. It really is The Who, Zeppelin, Cream, Yardbirds meets Genesis and Yes. Genesis made the same transitions but to a more pop oriented sound, much more extreme. This is all due to Phil Collins becoming more mainstream, movie gigs, Miami Vice appearances...he was popular. Rush is not popular in the mainstream, more now than ever for sure...but not in the 80's.
Now Rush are in the era of "the begining of the end", and it sounds brilliant! They are playing better than ever and more importantly they are having the time of their lives and it shows. They are taking all they have done these past 35-40 yrs are molding it into the current sound, there are bits of all eras in their music now.
 
When you think about other bands that lasted more than 35yrs, I don't think of them in the same vein as I do Rush. Still together, essentially the same lineup, same manager, same roadies......"if it aint broke don't fix it!"
 
Long live Rush


Beautiful. Well said. And yeah. They do have a little taste of reggae going on in their sound like police at times. Spirit of Radio does carry wisps of some reggae flavor in the guitar riffage. :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 13:40
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

What makes me love their 80's period so much is this brilliant album....

Hold Your Fire. YES. This album is magical. All that dare to disagree are... welcomed to..


I would never. I love Open Secrets and Tai Shan. 2 very underrated songs in Rush's catalog. :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 13:39
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Crumple Crumple wrote:

Can the big 80s Rush fans rank the albums Grace Under Pressure through Roll the Bones for me?


Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
Hold Your Fire
Presto / Roll The Bones
(Tie)

GUP and PW are essential, IMO!

Yes to all of this, except I think I can rank Presto above Roll the Bones.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 13:38
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Crumple Crumple wrote:

Can the big 80s Rush fans rank the albums Grace Under Pressure through Roll the Bones for me?


Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
Hold Your Fire
Presto / Roll The Bones
(Tie)

GUP and PW are essential, IMO!


Totally agree with this ranking system. Grace under pressure is the best of the lot in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 13:24
Hold Your Fire 
Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
Presto
Roll the Bones
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 10:34
Originally posted by Crumple Crumple wrote:

Can the big 80s Rush fans rank the albums Grace Under Pressure through Roll the Bones for me?


Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
Hold Your Fire
Presto / Roll The Bones
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GUP and PW are essential, IMO!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 09:47
Can the big 80s Rush fans rank the albums Grace Under Pressure through Roll the Bones for me?

That's the gap I skipped before coming back with Counterparts and I'd like to go back and see what's up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2013 at 17:29
Originally posted by Crumple Crumple wrote:

If they ever make "Rush - The Movie" I think Tom Hanks should play Neil. Google recent images of both...it's uncanny!


You know who might've been good, albeit 20-odd years ago? This guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0370729/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t17
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