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Quakasu 
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Posted: May 26 2008 at 06:42 |
The language spoken on Mercator Projected is Croatian, the accent seems to be a rural north Croatian (Slavonia region probably). Here's the translation. Croat guy: "Bio je jedan čovek koji se sedio u restoranu" (There was one guy sitting in a restaurant) Translation: "There was an Irish homosexual sitting in a restaurant" Croat guy: "On je rekao: Konobaru!" (He said: Waiter!) Translation: "He said: Waiter! Waiter! This soup isn't half cold" Croat guy: "A on konobaru, on je rekao, pa nisam gladan, ništa neću" (He told the Waiter: I'm not hungry, I don't want anything) Translation: "To Which the waiter replied..." Croat guy: "A on je rekao, pa gospodin! Gospodin!" - (And he said, Well Mister! Mister!) Laughter. I suppose they had the Croat guy recorded telling them a joke of which they took cuts and pieces because this conversation (not to mention translation:) makes no sense. There 
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Posted: January 02 2008 at 11:04 |
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On mercator projected is spoken serbo-croatian 100%. I am from Croatia(maybe unfortunately).I'm not sure which language is spoken on Snafu.
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Posted: July 26 2006 at 01:26 |
 Fitzcarraldo wrote:
Fassbinder,
You are obviously desperate for an answer, so I asked Geoff Nicholson from the group. He told me the following:
I believe the language we used on Mercator Projected was Serbo-Croat. It was spoken by Dave Arbus who had recently graduated from Bristol University with a degree in Languages. The language on Snafu is English -we just ran the tapes backwards.
Geoff Nicholson (East of Eden)
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Thousands of thanks, Fitzcarraldo! You have done the great thing.  And I mean it absolutely seriously.
Now one of the biggest mysteries (secrets?) of the Prog Rock is uncovered. 
Also, I want to thank all the visitors of this (desperate) thread who helped or tried to help: Glori, DarioIndjic, Atkingani, proger, Fitzcarraldo. Thank you all very much!
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 21:21 |
Fassbinder,
You are obviously desperate for an answer, so I asked Geoff Nicholson from the group. He told me the following:
I believe the language we used on Mercator Projected was Serbo-Croat. It was spoken by Dave Arbus who had recently graduated from Bristol University with a degree in Languages. The language on Snafu is English -we just ran the tapes backwards.
Geoff Nicholson (East of Eden)
Happy now?
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 16:45 |
It seems that I'm mostly speaking with myself...
"How could you let it happen?" -- from My Room (VdGG)
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Posted: July 24 2006 at 11:23 |
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...no, nobody???
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Posted: July 23 2006 at 11:44 |
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...still waiting for my saviour...
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Posted: July 20 2006 at 12:10 |
The option of gibberish is also an interesting one, but I hope very much that it is also the wrong one, proger.
Some words vividly remind me of the notions of "life" or "little"; at least, I can say it may be Slavic pronunciation of these words. That's about SNAFU.
In Mercator Projected the speech is obviously not gibberish; it is certainly a language, but I just don't know which one.
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Posted: July 20 2006 at 09:24 |
Ha ha nice topic...
I allways thought that this a rewind singing, I mean that they did it in the studio or something like this, I thought its an english that mixed togther to some "jibrish" words. like: "zizne", or "courezal"...
this what is think about this. ( I didnt have Mercator Projected)
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Posted: July 20 2006 at 05:09 |
Atkingani wrote:
Where are the other PA's Slavic speakers: Seyo, Ivanfrost, Eugene... ? 
Indeed...
I heard and heard SNAFU today and I'm now very curious? Could it be some of those Slavic languages with a few thousand speakers?
I hardly believe it's Upper or Lower Sorbian. For my linguistic ears (plus I'm a native Slavic speaker) it is one from the following three: Serbo-Croatian, Slovenian, Bulgarian (all are Southern Slavic languages; the option of the Old Church Slavonic is interesting, but this is a dead language, it's not spoken). DarioIndjic said he didn't recognise the language, and his native one is Serbo-Croatian...
Remember that many people of these minorities migrated to Western Europe, North America, Australia, maybe one East Of Eden's member has roots there.
The surname of Dave Arbus is Slavic (or, at least, may be interpreted as Slavic), but it is not a decisive factot as everyone of them might have Slavic roots while having non-Slavic surname. |
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 22:24 |
Where are the other PA's Slavic speakers: Seyo, Ivanfrost, Eugene... ?
I heard and heard SNAFU today and I'm now very curious? Could it be some of those Slavic languages with a few thousand speakers? Remember that many people of these minorities migrated to Western Europe, North America, Australia, maybe one East Of Eden's member has roots there.
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 12:11 |
Atkingani wrote:
Fassbinder, I'm following this thread only 'cause I have interest in languages and linguistics, also I have SNAFU but I can't help you since my native language and those related to it are in another branch.
Let's wait a bit more... don't give up! 
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Thank you for the supporting, Atkingani! Thank you very much.
Of course, I'll wait...
I hope for the help from the Slavic speakers, I know there are some in the forum.
Also, it cannot be mistake, there is a Slavic language alongside English in both Mercator Projected and SNAFU.
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 11:51 |
Fassbinder, I'm following this thread only 'cause I have interest in languages and linguistics, also I have SNAFU but I can't help you since my native language and those related to it are in another branch.
Let's wait a bit more... don't give up!
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 11:31 |
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...still no reaction...
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Posted: July 18 2006 at 05:18 |
...it seems that...nobody wants to help me...
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 17:18 |
Well, the results after a week of waiting: 3 replies from 2 persons so far. Very intensive  .
This leads me to the following logical implications:
a) East of Eden is a Z-class band which hardly gets any attention from the forum members;
b) An overwhelming majority of the listeners just doesn't pay attention to what they listen to;
c) This is a hallucination shared by me, DarioIndjic and Glori -- there is no second language in two East of Eden albums (Mercator Projected and SNAFU), and the only language spoken in these albums is English.
... I know that at least two out of three of the implications are absurdic...
Edited by Fassbinder - July 18 2006 at 06:49
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Posted: July 10 2006 at 17:51 |
DarioIndjic wrote:
I heard the album,i really cant tell you what is the language,maybe its sung in old Slavic,i dont know... |
You mean the second album, SNAFU, right? Since it's impossible not to recognize the native language, it's definitely not Serbo-Croatian.
The option of the Church Slavonic is great! (BTW, also the Southern Slavic language, though the dead one.)
Edited by Fassbinder - July 11 2006 at 01:05
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Posted: July 10 2006 at 17:22 |
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I heard the album,i really cant tell you what is the language,maybe its sung in old Slavic,i dont know...
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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Posted: July 10 2006 at 12:51 |
Glori wrote:
Its not properly spoken Croatian. |
Croatian? Do you mean Serbo-Croatian?
Why not properly?
And, who had the honour?
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Posted: July 10 2006 at 05:41 |
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Its not properly spoken Croatian.
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