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Atavachron
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 03:56 | ||
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zeqexes
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 04:20 | ||
While Progressive music of course does have a lot to do with progression and innovation, I don't think that the actual piece of music has to progress or be innovative to be Prog, because then there's the argument of where you draw the line on what's innovation and what's not.
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13438 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 04:20 | ||
Christian Vander did the most intelligent thing by inventing a new word to define his music. Why don't we do the same? Instead of "progressive" let's call it "Maendisila". (I have composed this work taking the first half from the Swahili and the second half from the Malesian words for progressive.
A word without a meaning can be the solution.
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
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Dean
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 04:27 | ||
Progress does not mean innovation. It simply means moving forward. The two are not synonymous or mutually inclusive.
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What?
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chopper
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 04:30 | ||
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 05:34 | ||
Welcome Just be aware that everything you'll ever want to discuss, has been discussed before ad nauseum on these forums, so please just start 'fun' threads and 'What is your favourite pie' polls, and you'll get on with everyone just fine.. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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chopper
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 06:32 | ||
I must start a pie thread.
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Stool Man
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 06:55 | ||
We're neither, we're Indo-Raga-Maendisila (on ice) |
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rotten hound of the burnie crew
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Mormegil
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 07:13 | ||
I must start a pie thread. [/QUOTE]Great, now I'm hungry . . . |
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 07:27 | ||
The answer is simple :
"The Creative is tamed by Kên, Keeping Still. This produces great power, a
situation in contrast to that of the ninth hexagram, Hsiao Ch'u, THE TAMING POWER OF THE SMALL, in which the Creative is tamed by the Gentle alone. There one weak line must tame five strong lines, but here four strong lines are restrained by two weak lines; in addition to a minister, there is a prince, and the restraining power therefore is afar stronger." |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 07:54 | ||
Sure - in 1969 |
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13438 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 07:59 | ||
I don't think that theremins fit into the Indo-Raga-Maendisila subgenre.
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
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aapatsos
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 08:27 | ||
I think the OP confuses "exciting" as an adjective with "Progressive" as a genre/movement
...or what Dean explained already |
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Windhawk
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 08:45 | ||
I'm reading a bit in a book by one of the folks who think they know a bit more than the ordinary about prog rock these days, and a band mentioned as having a part in the development of the genre is Rolling Stones. Without ever described as progressive per se I'll hastily add.
I think it would be helpful in debates such as this to compare progressive with mainstream rather than comparing progressive with progressive. If you want to look at the difference between apples and pears, actually looking at apples and pears is so much better than than looking at apples trying to see if some of them look more like pears.
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Websites I work with:
http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13438 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 09:03 | ||
On"Pigs Might Fly" which is about the Pink Floyd's history Rolling Stones are barely mentioned and never as influencers, neither for the psych-blues of the Floyd's very beginnings. In terms of psychedelia the Beatles have been more important as influencers than the Stones. I don't see any relationship between Strones and prog. The closest thing they have done is I think 20000 Light Year From Home, really too few
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Windhawk
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 09:45 | ||
Quoted from somewhere else. Without implying that this an opinion I share, but a factoid I've come across in other places as well. "Even established bands of the time began to experiment with the rock sound, such as the Moody Blues, who recorded their Days of Futures Past album with conductor Peter Knight and the London Symphony Orchestra. Even the Rolling Stones also got into the act (and divided their fan and critical base in the process) with the psychedelic Their Satanic Majesties Request."
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Websites I work with:
http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
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Dean
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 09:57 | ||
At this juncture someone usualy enters the room carrying a dog-eard copy of Pet Sounds under their arm...
Edited by Dean - May 02 2013 at 09:58 |
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What?
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13438 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 10:25 | ||
Like Mademoiselle Nobs you mean ?
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Metalmarsh89
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
Posted: May 02 2013 at 10:27 | ||
Well that's no fun. How in the world do we pick the brains of the dinosaurs and the experts here without creating controversial threads topics? But I do love pie! |
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progbethyname
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Posted: May 02 2013 at 11:52 | ||
I'm in for that idea. I'm an idiot by trade. I can contribute. |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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