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PINK FLOYD — Meddle
Review by FloydFan (Colt)

5 stars This is by far one of the greatsest Pink Floyd albums of all time. If you like floyd you'll love this album. It features great songs like Echos and One of these days. So please do your self and every other music lover a favor. BUY THIS ALBUM!!!

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A Floyd fan ... but a poor review...

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Some people really have no clue of how a review should be written... For most, a review is essential in order to know whether a certain album is worth buying. If the relevant info is missing, what's the use of having a review at all?
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Some people really have no clue of how a review should be written... For most, a review is essential in order to know whether a certain album is worth buying. If the relevant info is missing, what's the use of having a review at all?
 
Yup, so you really have to screen those reviews, but the big problem is the reviewer can reflect in an overly positive or negative way thus wrongly indicating the merits of a particular work. This is especially important when considering many new or more obscure works that don't get the weight of numbers that the more popular works get. This is where you spend your money.
 
I don't trust the way I review, so I shy away from it as a result.
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Points: 4828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 08:16

It's still sad as some who might not be very talented writers, would still want to give reviews for their favorite artists. Instead of deleting these, could this kind of reviewers be helped to fathom what their writing maybe lacks, and give them a change to enhance their writing? Unhappy

EDIT: I mean, my first reviews weren't much better than FloydFan's. If he would be guided to write concretelly why this album is a must have, you could have a new reviewer in the future. Simply bashing peoples own work by indicating thet they do not "qualify", you hurt the writer, lose a potential resource, and turn the site's culture towards a bad direction.


Edited by Eetu Pellonpää - August 22 2006 at 08:38
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Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

It's still sad as some who might not be very talented writers, would still want to give reviews for their favorite artists. Instead of deleting these, could this kind of reviewers be helped to fathom what their writing maybe lacks, and give them a change to enhance their writing? Unhappy

EDIT: I mean, my first reviews weren't much better than FloydFan's. If he would be guided to write concretelly why this album is a must have, you could have a new reviewer in the future. Simply bashing peoples own work by indicating thet they do not "qualify", you hurt the writer, lose a potential resource, and turn the site's culture towards a bad direction.
 
Eetu (& others),
 
When we delete (or edit) a review a communication is sent to the reviewer, explaining why the deletion and encouraging/inviting him/her to redo and resubmit the deleted one and make new ones.
 
In general, the replies are fair and the further development is agreeable - some are now fine PA reviewers (although I won't mention names here).
 
The communication text is more or less "standard" but we always make some changes when it's the first review of a member or when we realize that the reviewer's native language isn't English, etc.
 
However, any idea for improvement is welcome! Smile 
 
   
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 14:22
A non-English review here:
 
VARIOUS ARTISTS — Visions Of An Inner Mounting Apocalypse
Review by ashro

— First review of this album —

5 stars "Better than the originals !" - voilà ce qu'un grand fan du Mahavishnu pourrait dire - Et c'est ce que je dis... arf ;)

Les compositions exceptionnelles de John Mac Laughlin sont interprétées avec la puissance et le son qu'on attend de tous ces talentueux musiciens/guitaristes qui peuplent cet album - merci à Mike Varney pour le concept et la production (on se rappelle les 2 exceptionnels MVP avec Frank Gambale et Allan Holdsworth - extraordinaires quasi-lives en studio ultra inspirés et techniquement holocaustiques)... c'est un bijou, je crois que je préfère même certaines versions de ce disque aux originaux du Mahavishnu, c'est tout dire... Steve Morse est géant sur Celestial Terrestrial Commuters, Mike Stern déchire tout sur Can't Stand Your Funk (voilà un homme qui sait phraser), Frank Gambale donne un cours de violente improvisation sur Dawn, John Abercrombie nous fait une formidable dentelle sur Follow Your Heart (il manque un Metheny pour concurrencer cette magnifique interprétation... John est fantastique), Jimmy Herring se lâche vraiment très fort sur Meeting of the Spirits, vieux style et gros feeling de Jeff Richman sur Jazz, Warren Haynes casse du gros blues sur Lila's Dance, David Fiuczynski nous lâche un gros style fusion très puissant et bruitiste comme à son habitude sur Faith, Greg Howe est pur style metal enlevé sur Dance of Maya, et merveille des merveilles (jimmy et maclo sont pas seuls au panthéon des canonisés...), Steve Lukather nous arrache littéralement la plus belle version de Birds of Fire que je puisse personnellement imaginer... tout simplement explosif, extra-terrestre... du vrai progressif, du grand Luke, qui donc ne nous a pas tout donné en 30 ans de TOTO (l'exemple ultime du groupe qui sonne - merci Luke, on ne le dira jamais assez).

Le quartet Colaiuta / Eckhardt / Forman / Richman est fantastique, très gros son, hypra volubile - Mitchell Forman est toujours un des meilleurs clavier du monde - et la présence de Jerry Goodman nous montre que Mahavishnu's not dead... il détruit tout, avec des graviers - avec l'âge aidant, on a l'impression que sa violence expressive naturelle atteint des sommets. Ça phrase ultra méchant, une émulation cyclopéenne... c'est bien un tribute au Mahavishnu.

Un disque énorme - je le recommande chaudement - qui ne m'a pas déçu... les productions de Mike Varney tiennent leur niveau de qualité.

Je pense que la compétition est lancée, et que le Mahavishnu Orchestra devrait se reformer afin d'essayer de faire aussi bien que ce disque "de reprises" - arf ! hallucinant...

Juste un truc : évidemment, l'orchestre symphonique sur Apocalypse, en 1974, était d'un céleste onirisme... ici, pas d'orchestre, mais on ne leur en veux pas... ça sera pour la prochaine.

Les arrangements de John Mac Laughlin valent toujours leur pesant d'or... 24 carats.

Looks like it could have been one well worth reading but I cant read it.
 
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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 15:12
Merci, Andrew...
 
It's a fine review, I think - just needing a good soul to provide the translation.
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Points: 5308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 15:15

I understand about a half of that, but my French is not good enough to offer my services here, I'm afraid.
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Guigo,

I can translate it, but not at this instant - if I'm the only volunteer I will do it over the weekend. But first I suggest you check if the author can translate himself, after all, he does start with an english sentence himself (or herself).

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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 16:06
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Guigo,

I can translate it, but not at this instant - if I'm the only volunteer I will do it over the weekend. But first I suggest you check if the author can translate himself, after all, he does start with an english sentence himself (or herself).

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Thanks, Angelo! I will check with the reviewer, later I'll inform here if s/he's able to translate. Smile
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Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

 
When we delete (or edit) a review a communication is sent to the reviewer, explaining why the deletion and encouraging/inviting him/her to redo and resubmit the deleted one and make new ones.
 
In general, the replies are fair and the further development is agreeable - some are now fine PA reviewers (although I won't mention names here).
 
The communication text is more or less "standard" but we always make some changes when it's the first review of a member or when we realize that the reviewer's native language isn't English, etc.
 
However, any idea for improvement is welcome! Smile 
 
Well this sounds very good! Didn't know these details about the procedure. I trust on your professional work here. Smile
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Points: 24392 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2006 at 02:22
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Guigo,

I can translate it, but not at this instant - if I'm the only volunteer I will do it over the weekend. But first I suggest you check if the author can translate himself, after all, he does start with an english sentence himself (or herself).

Angelo
 
Thanks, Angelo! I will check with the reviewer, later I'll inform here if s/he's able to translate. Smile


I can do it if you want - my French is quite good, and I can translate from French to English without any big problems.
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Guigo,

I can translate it, but not at this instant - if I'm the only volunteer I will do it over the weekend. But first I suggest you check if the author can translate himself, after all, he does start with an english sentence himself (or herself).

Angelo

 
Thanks, Angelo! I will check with the reviewer, later I'll inform here if s/he's able to translate. Smile
 


I can do it if you want - my French is quite good, and I can translate from French to English without any big problems.

 
Looks like no native French speaker will volunteer, then??Confused
 
I could also do it, but lack time.........Smile
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Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

GR & Fassbinder & Oliver: in both cases, I erased the text and let the rating.
 
If the reviewers want to really improve their reviews they can PM or mail me (or any Mod) and room will be provided for new submissions. Smile
 
 
 
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Just to inform you all.... I just sent a PM to Guigo with the English translation of the French review. I had some time on my hands, and it wasn't very difficult to do to start with. Obviously, if the review had been in Swahili, I'd have had to decline it...Wink
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Just to inform you all.... I just sent a PM to Guigo with the English translation of the French review. I had some time on my hands, and it wasn't very difficult to do to start with. Obviously, if the review had been in Swahili, I'd have had to decline it...Wink
 
Yes... the review is already in the homepage!!! Smile
 
Thanks a lot, Rafaella! Clap You're really a very sweet and dedicated person!!! Embarrassed
 
Thank you all for the support and comraderie! Thumbs Up
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Excellent job, Raffella!(now post your pics)
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Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Just to inform you all.... I just sent a PM to Guigo with the English translation of the French review. I had some time on my hands, and it wasn't very difficult to do to start with. Obviously, if the review had been in Swahili, I'd have had to decline it...Wink
 
Yes... the review is already in the homepage!!! Smile
 
Thanks a lot, Rafaella! Clap You're really a very sweet and dedicated person!!! Embarrassed
 
Thank you all for the support and comraderie! Thumbs Up


I second that. Well done Rafaella.
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