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Rottenhat 
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By the way... I think one category is missing on PA. The Abstract/Noise category. Bands like Mertzbow and Biota and the like. That's the logical left step from Avant/RIO in my opinion.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 16:08 |
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Indeed, but I personally think that would be straying too far from the territory of progressive rock to merit inclusion on a progressive rock website. |
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 16:17 |
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While some of the more aggressive avant-garde jazz could find a home here (since aggressive often equals rock), Merzbow isn't related to anything at all. Then again I also don't think Merzbow is necessarily music, so I don't know.
In other news: Guitar Solos by Fred Frith! I should have heard this earlier!
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Syzygy
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Posted: July 09 2009 at 18:37 |
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Agreed. You might have a point with Biota (after all, Ground Zero are already here), but most artists in that field have little connection to RIO other than being - in the broadest sense - avant garde.
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Padraic
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Posted: July 09 2009 at 21:08 |
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The thing is, "Avant", as it is thrown around on this site, is really a shorthand for "avant-garde progressive rock". While there's a bit of leeway regarding the "rock" part, it is a criterion that we try to adhere to - it is beyond our scope to simply add any avant-garde or eccentric sounding artist that's out there - otherwise a slew of modern classical and avant-jazz artists would soon fill our archives. As others have said, I'm not sure Merzbow is even "music" - it's sort of a noise art, but I do know it sure as hell ain't rock music.  |
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Posted: July 10 2009 at 08:22 |
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My latest avant discoveries have been CHEER-ACCIDENT and MAUDLIN OF THE WELL. Both bands from the USA, both bands are veteran acts with new albums this year, both bands are really great!!
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Posted: July 10 2009 at 12:12 |
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Two awesome releases by these two bands this year!!! In other news, OOIOO will release their new album, Armonico Hewa, on August 6th, 2009. http://www.thrilljockey.com/artists/index.html?id=10034 http://ooioo.jp/ http://www.myspace.com/oooiooo |
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The Hemulen
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Posted: July 10 2009 at 13:30 |
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Ooh lovely! I've been really getting into OOIOO recently. I must make sure to check that one out. I suppose now is as good a time as any to admit to knowing nothing whatsoever about Maudlin of the Well (though I've seen the name bandied about a lot). I should probably give them a go at some point in the not-too-distant. |
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Like David I'm not really familar with Maudlin of the Well; another one to add to the wish list I suppose.
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Man With Hat
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OO(I)OO....I like this news.
Thanks for the heads up...had no idea they were planning anything.
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 06:58 |
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Anyone going to see Birdsongs of the Mesozoic on mini-tour?
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Padraic
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 10:08 |
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I wish I could.
Haha, AS-220! I remember that place from my youth, when I lived in Providence. |
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 15:14 |
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You were brought up in Lovecraft land?
 No wonder Shub-Niggurath is amazing to your ears. |
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infandous
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Okay, I'm a big fan of Belgian RIO bands (Univers Zero, Present) and also enjoy Thinking Plague and Miriador. But that's really as far as I've gotten with RIO stuff.
So, for someone who loves dark chamber type stuff, what else would you guys recommend? thanks! |
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I don't see Art Zoyd listed there ...their first 3 albums are absolute masterworks of the genre
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 14:56 |
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Some that immediately spring to mind are: U TOTEM - s/t YUGEN - Labirinto D'acqua ZYPRESSEN - s/t Zaar - s/t Sotos - Platypus (and the first one as well) RATIONAL DIET - At Work PANZERPAPPA - Koralrevens Klagesang OCTOBER EQUUS - Charybdis OLIVE MESS - Gramercy FRENCH TV - any album you find, but Violence of Amateurs is highly recommended There's many more and a lot to be found here:http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=36 As well as on other sites. |
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 15:01 |
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Shub-Niggurath. Not so dark chamber that I can't recommend highly enough: Volapuk Rouge Ciel |
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 16:47 |
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Excellent. I've certainly heard of them, but will check them out immediately, thanks! |
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Yeah, I've looked under the subgenre, but there are so many  Actually, I have the Yugen as well, I forgot. Not a favorite, but I think I need to give it more spins. I also have the Panzerpappa and love that one (I forgot about it when I posted though  )French TV I have been listening to for years. Somehow never thought of them as RIO/Avante prog for some reason, but I guess they fit there better than anywhere else. Thanks for the other suggestions. Lots for me to check out! |
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Ahh, yes, I've heard of them. I think maybe the name scared me off (which is strange, because I LOVE H.P. Lovecraft's works....the writer, of course). The guy who turned me on to Univers Zero years ago recommended them but I never got around to checking them out. I'll have to get on that now.thanks! |
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