Consider uniting subgenre teams

What about allowing SCs who are on teams to simply add bands at their discretion instead of voting; that way the addition process would speed up a bit but would still be limited to those SCs on teams with jurisdiction over a certain subgenre.   

Atavachron wrote: What about allowing SCs who are on teams to simply add bands at their discretion instead of voting; that way the addition process would speed up a bit but would still be limited to those SCs on teams with jurisdiction over a certain subgenre.

that is a great idea David!   It would.. or could help speed things up.

Does it help with some of the ancilary issues, lack of passion, lack overall of collabs? I don't know if it would, but the more radical proposal of allowing retired 'genre team' collabs to add as they see fit is not guaranteed to do that either.  If that more radical proposal was seriously being considered I would probably offer the suggestion to perhaps not open it to any and all 'retirees'. An issue which I think Olav and I likely skirted around, and one definitely discussed in private converstations about this, is trust.  I would propose only a few, those who show the interest do so, and those that did... have sterling reputations. That would leave me out for sure   In all honesty.. my first thought was someone like Olav since he is still extremely active and passionate about the issue. I don't think anyone would object to him, unlike myself for example, he doesn't have the reputation (or fear of) of being a firebrand progressive when it comes to additions.  As I noted privately.. it really boils down to trust. Something very much lacking in the past. More between the admins and collabs here (PR additions anyone). Todays site is a much healthier and trusting, and simply friendlier site than it was back then.  I think if the right people were put forward, it could work. Trust works both way, along with respect. Those who could freely add would respect the teams, and work with them, but in return the teams would need to respect or work to add or clear the bands that the these.. special S.C's think should be added.

again.. just thinking out loud


Edited by micky - June 25 2015 at 18:29

good question..why? .early on that was a point of conversation early in this thread. When we had 100's of known and countless more obscure 70's bands not included in the sites, the site needed teams. I formed two of the largest myself because we needed to for the shear amount of work we had to do. Plus back then the site evolving being fined tuned.  Genres were being created and those took people and teams to accomplish. Genre teams were necessary... a valid question today is.. are they needed or just the remnants of the past kept out of inertia and in fact  anarchism in the reality of the site, and the prog music scene today.

also one note on the purpose of genre teams...  additions are the sexy perks of the job.  Where genre teams still serve purpose.. is not for additions..  but the real purpose of this site IMO. This is a database, the best one available by lightyears,  the hard work, the unsexy work is updating and maintaining all those addtions. Teams should not just forget them once they are added.  That is where genre teams are still valid, and most useful.  I've had pointed out to me, by those who have tried to use the site, the outdated entries...  incorrect information.  Is that not what genre teams should be working on.. worrying less about the personal domains and additions.. concentrating on the database.

again.. tossing it out for discussion...


Edited by micky - June 25 2015 at 18:52

Thanks for the mention and compliments Micky, but I'm afraid my days as an active participant here are over, perhaps with the exception of occasional stopgap helps to the Crossover team. I have too many reviews assignments for starters, and also got a health scare situation this year that I need to set aside time to deal with. Which is why I've been around here a bit lately - sick leave, for good reasons, and being forced to take it a tad easier than usual have given me time to hang around in here. A situation that won't last all that long, hopefully, as I plan to get back in good health as soon as possible.

you earned the kudos... and hope to see you in better health and thus less of you around here then..and soon.

I hear you on health scares.. I had one last month...likely stress related but you never know. I have always been a firm believer in hard living and abusing myself but it made me question my firm desire to be dead before I get old and am pissing and drooling on myself in a rest home, a fate that scares me worse than death. If only for Raff's sake. In that way.. being happily married sucks.. I can't run myself into an early grave in good conscience any more.   I have nearly kicked the Winstons, down to a couple a day now , and she is getting me to finally start taking better care of myself.


Edited by micky - June 25 2015 at 19:29

oohhh...  I won't pry and won't divulge.. even though I think some of you know some of my ghosts and demons.  I was open about them back in the day.

We sound very similar Olav.  Seriously... get yourself well.. I am trying to do right by Raff... she is saint.  I'm good to her, but make no mistake and she knows all too well... I was very damaged goods when we met. I am a handful for her.

I did try e-cigs but the whole 'selling point' was the point I found the least use for them. I gave up on them. In addtion to everything I have to deal with in my past, I have a quite stressful job and at times downright dangerous (you might not have heard of the explosion I survived two years ago. Had to go to the hospital but luckily only got burns on my face and weren't that serious). Cigarettes were a 10 minute time-out to destress and push the mental reset. If I can vape anytime.. the point is lost. It isn't the nicotine... it is completely the mental aspect of it.

Atavachron wrote: Man With Hat wrote: Atavachron wrote: What about allowing SCs who are on teams to simply add bands at their discretion instead of voting; that way the addition process would speed up a bit but would still be limited to those SCs on teams with jurisdiction over a certain subgenre.    Not to be curt but...why have a team then? So there would still be specialists in a given subgenere who would be able to hear more readily whether a band was progressive and whether it should be added in their category.   In that way the process wouldn't change; there would still be evaluation, discussion, consultation with others.   Only the time-consuming voting process would be eliminated--  Once it was established a band should be added, it would be.

Sorry if I'm just being thick here (me brains no work right, k), but I don't see how someone making a unilateral decision encourages discussion and consultation with others. That discussion and consultation is the stuff that takes time.

Unless you mean in the broader sense of should whatever band be brought to the team, but I read your original quote to mean added to the database not the teams queue.

^ Oh I see. Sorry, the JRF team doesn't use progfreak so I avoid all those extra headaches.

Windhawk wrote: Hehe, I've think been fairly open about my at least some of ghosts, but won't side track this thread with them. That's for another occasion, and most likely a non-public one as I don't like sympathy. I'm familiar with stress thank you very much, I suspect anyone with a past more troubled than average tends to do themselves in one way or the other. Possibly due to adrenaline addiction. I do use cigarettes to mentally de-stress as well, but the calming and de-stressing effects of nicotine itself shouldn't be dismissed out of hand either. Mental reward and chemical relaxation.