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Posted: November 12 2005 at 09:45

Logos wrote:

Certif1ed wrote:

Folk Metal - Is there such a thing?

Ha! Your ignorance amuses me.

I must admit that yours pisses me off. I didn't know IQs went that low.

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Posted: November 12 2005 at 06:50

Some personal black metal favourites:

Enslaved - anything really, but "Mardraum" stands out for me. Their newest album, "ISA" is even better, but doesn't really fit the "black" label.

Old Man's Child - Ill-Natured Spiritual Invasion

Windir - Arntor, 1184

Morgul - The horror grandeur

Rakoth - Planeshift (Russian band, great stuff)

Thorns - Thorns

And I second Immortal, especially "At the Heart of Winter".

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Posted: November 12 2005 at 04:01

walrus333 wrote:

Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out?

Absolutely. What a great band.

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Posted: November 12 2005 at 03:20

Since I'd say the classics have been pretty well established, here are some of my personal faves.

Power Metal:
Kamelot - The Black Halo
Stratovarius - Episode
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle Earth
Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder (although beware, they have black metal-esque vocals)

Thrash Metal:
Sodom - Agent Orange
Watchtower - Control and Resistance
Atheist - Unquesitonable Presence (it blurs the line between thrash and death metal, but I'm putting it down as thrash)

Brutal Death:
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
Cryptopsy - None So Vile
Death - The Sound of Peseverence (not quite as brutal, but certainly not melodic)
Gorguts - Obscura

Melodic Death:
In Flames - The Jester Race
At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul
Edge of Sanity - Crimson (not really melodic death in the same sense, but not really brutal either)
Opeth - Blackwater Park (ditto with the above)
Hypocrisy - Virus
Arsis - A Diamond For Disease

In addition...

Black Metal:
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Anaal Nathrakh - Total f**king Necro
Ulver - Bergtatt, Nattens Madrigal
Burzum - Filosofem
Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors (not really black metal, but generally classified as such)

Some albums which don't really fit clearly under any single subgenre (all listed on PA, but none of them are prog-metal in the Dream Theater sense):

Meshuggah - Catch 33
Maudlin of the Well - Bath/Leaving Your Body Map
Cynic - Focus

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Posted: November 12 2005 at 02:45

Thrash:

Anthrax-Spreading the Disease,Among the Living

Metallica-Kill em All,Ride the Lightning,Master of Puppets

Megadeth-Pease Sells...but Who's Buying?,Rust in Peace

Slayer-Hell Awaits,Reign in Blood,South of Heaven

Stormtroopers of Death-Speak English or Die

Sacred Reich-Ignorance,American Way

Death Angel-Act III

Exodus-Bonded by Blood,Fabulous Disaster

Nuclear Assault-Survive,Handle with Care

Overkill-The Years of Decay

Metal Church-Metal Church,Blessing in Disguise,Human Factor

Testament-The Legacy,The New Order,The Ritual

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Posted: November 12 2005 at 01:21

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Gothic metal - Type O Negative (quite a tongue-in-cheek band, but musically supreme, start with "World Coming Down", "October Rust" and "Bloody Kisses")

Type-O is a fabulous band, I have been into them for many years. Howver, I would disagree with these recommendations. Start with Bloody Kisses, then Life is Killing Me, Origin of the Feces, and October Rust (World Coming Down is, in fact, my least fav of their albums).

Bloody Kisses is probably the crowning masterpiece of gothic metal. brilliant songs and composition, with a touch of dark humor that's impossible to beat. their cover of Summer Breeze is great and quite funny, but there are many amazing songs on that album.

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Posted: November 12 2005 at 00:05

Xymphony wrote:

walrus333 wrote:

Thnks for the suggestions eveyone! keep em coming.

@Manukind I totally forgot about doom metal, thanks for the reminder.

Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out?

Yes. I advise "At The Heart Of Winter" and "Damned In Black" albums. They are really really cool...

Two good albums.

There are so many Black metal bands (and most are not very good or innovative). I would recommend:

Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence Dementia, Moon In The Scorpio and The Ultimate Death Worship

Diabolical Masquerade - Death's Design, Nightwork and Ravendusk In My Heart

Negura Bunget - 'N Crugu Bradului and Maiastru Sfetnic

1349 - Beyond The Apocalypse

Akercocke (mix of Black and Death metal) - Choronzon, The Goat of Mendes

Anaal Nathrakh - The Codex Necro and Domine Non Es Dignus

There are more good bands but this will suffice for now

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Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:54

walrus333 wrote:

Thnks for the suggestions eveyone! keep em coming.

@Manukind I totally forgot about doom metal, thanks for the reminder.

Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out?

Yes. I advise "At The Heart Of Winter" and "Damned In Black" albums. They are really really cool...

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Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:04

Thnks for the suggestions eveyone! keep em coming.

@Manukind I totally forgot about doom metal, thanks for the reminder.

Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out?

If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks!

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Posted: November 11 2005 at 20:01

I'd say you're better off skipping the Machine Head stuff (which I find quite mediocre and boring) and go straight to the band's immediate predecessor, VIO-LENCE. They just reissued the band's first two albums... much more technical songwriting, and the vocals are much more interesting as well.

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Posted: November 11 2005 at 16:40

Ed said :

Thrash - Megadeth (Countdown To Extinction)

Please, do not tell me you think this one is better than Rust In Peace !

Topic, Machine Head-Burn My Eyes ( absolute must have )

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Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:49

Manunkind wrote:

EDIT: How could I have forgotten black metal

... get Mayhem's "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas" and "A Grand Declaration of War", Satyricon's "Nemesis Divina" and "Rebel Extravaganza", all the albums by Emperor, Dimmu Borgir's "Spiritual Black Dimensions", Cradle of Filth's "Vempire" and wait for Logos to come, give you some more black metal recommendations and flame me for suggesting Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth

- btw, your suggestions are so UN-TRUE

.. Mayhem is totally mainstream

. I'd recommend something totally UG like Infernum's Taur-nu-fuin or Clandestine Blaze's Fist of the Northern Destroyer.

No, but seriously.. the 5 essential (but not the best .. ) black metal albums are as follows..

Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Satyricon - Nemesis Divina
Ulver - Nattens Madrigal

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Posted: November 11 2005 at 14:48

Power metal - can't really help you there, but IMO Dragonforce really seem to love what they do and you can hear it in their music

Thrash metal - Master of Puppets, Rust in Peace are great recommendations. You can also try Exodus - "Bonded by Blood". Slayer's "Reign in Blood" is sort of half-way thrash/death and an extremely infulential album, but IMO it is also extremely boring.

Brutal death - don't get "Scream Bloody Gore" (sorry Cert), it's a good album, but it's not really death metal. Actually the only brutal death album from Death is "Leprosy" (recommended). Strik9 gave you some excellent recommendations above, but just to specify the very best:

Morbid Angel - "Altars of Madness", "Formulas Fatal to the Flesh" (actually the only MA album to avoid is "Heretic")

Suffocation - "Effigy of the Forgotten" (probably the best songs in brutal death metal, beg, steal to get it)

Cryptopsy - "None so Vile"

Immolation - "Close to a World Below"

Gorguts - "Obscura"

(the last three are absolutely insane)

Melodic death - Carcass - "Heartwork", also At the Gates, Opeth, early In Flames and early Edge of Sanity

Folk metal - In Extremo

Gothic metal - Type O Negative (quite a tongue-in-cheek band, but musically supreme, start with "World Coming Down", "October Rust" and "Bloody Kisses")

Some gothic-influenced bands in the archives - Lacrimosa and Anathema

Also Paradise Lost (although they're pure gothic metal only from "One Second" onwards and "Host" is a Depeche Mode-style album) and maybe early Theatre of Tragedy

Also why not try doom metal? It's a very rich genre, one I've only begun to explore and I love it so far... some examples -

(raw but beautiful) My Dying Bride (everything), Morgion "Solinari", Esoteric

(raw but catchy) Candlemass (everything, especially "Nightfall"), early Cathedral, Solitude Aeternus

(raw but... erm, raw, very raw) Burning Witch, Khanate, Wormphlegm, Worship (unfortunately albums by these bands are very hard to get)

Enjoy!

EDIT: How could I have forgotten black metal... get Mayhem's "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas" and "A Grand Declaration of War", Satyricon's "Nemesis Divina" and "Rebel Extravaganza", all the albums by Emperor, Dimmu Borgir's "Spiritual Black Dimensions", Cradle of Filth's "Vempire" and wait for Logos to come, give you some more black metal recommendations and flame me for suggesting Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth

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Posted: November 11 2005 at 13:52

Certif1ed wrote:

Folk Metal - Is there such a thing?

Ha! Your ignorance amuses me.

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Posted: November 11 2005 at 13:12

Death and Thrash are my main musical loves so here's some off the top of my head:

Death Metal, Technical Death Metal, Death/Grind and Death/Thrash

Death, Cryptopsy, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Asphyx, early Cancer, Napalm Death, Immolation, Malevolent Creation, Sadus, Obituary, early Carcass....

Thrash Metal

Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, Dark Angel, 80's Metallica, Annihilator, Kreator, Exodus, Testament, Overkill, Xentrix, Death Angel, Nuclear Assault, Suicidal Tendencies, S.O.D.....

Some of the bigger names and some more obscure bands to get a newbie started imo.

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Posted: November 10 2005 at 17:31

Power - Edguy (Hellfire Club)

Melodic Death - Children of Bodom (HateBreeder), Norther (Dreams of endless War), In Flames (Reroute To Remain)

Thrash - Megadeth (Countdown To Extinction)

heavy - Iron Maiden (7th Son of a 7th Son, Brave New World)

gothic - Paradise Lost (Icon, Draconian Times)

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Posted: November 10 2005 at 16:45

Recommended Albums - these are albums that absolutely defined the genres and generally go an extra mile or two:

Power Metal - Riot : Narita, Skid Row : Slave to the Grind

Thrash Metal - Metallica : Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, Slayer : Reign in Blood, Sacred Reich : Ignorance, Megadeth : Killing is my Business And Business Is Good, Anthrax : Spreading the Disease

I don't know about Brutal or Melodic Death Metal, but it all started with Death : Scream Bloody Gore

Folk Metal - Is there such a thing?

Gothic Metal - Cradle of Filth : Midian - every other Goth Metal band I've ever heard has just seemed watered down in comparison, and Midian is more progressive than most of the Prog Metal in the archives, IMO. Maybe I just like them because they're so progressive

Classic Metal - Now we're talking;

1st generation Heavy Metal - High Tide : Sea Shanties, Led Zeppelin : II, Black Sabbath : Black Sabbath

Mid period Metal - Judas Priest : Sad Wings of Destiny, Stained Class, Pink Fairies : Kings of Oblivion, Groundhogs : Split, Motorhead : On Parole

NWOBHM - AC/DC : Back in Black, Black Sabbath : Heaven and Hell, Motorhead : Ace of Spades, Scorpions : Lovedrive, Iron Maiden : Number of the Beast, Diamond Head : Living on Borrowed Time, Raven : All for One... and hundreds of other classics!