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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:04

Thnks for the suggestions eveyone! keep em coming.

@Manukind  I totally forgot about doom metal, thanks for the reminder.

Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out?

If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:54
Originally posted by walrus333 walrus333 wrote:

Thnks for the suggestions eveyone! keep em coming.

@Manukind  I totally forgot about doom metal, thanks for the reminder.

Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out?

 

Yes. I advise "At The Heart Of Winter" and "Damned In Black" albums.  They are really really cool...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 00:05
Originally posted by Xymphony Xymphony wrote:

Originally posted by walrus333 walrus333 wrote:

Thnks for the suggestions eveyone! keep em coming.

@Manukind  I totally forgot about doom metal, thanks for the reminder.

Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out?

 

Yes. I advise "At The Heart Of Winter" and "Damned In Black" albums.  They are really really cool...

Two good albums.

There are so many Black metal bands (and most are not very good or innovative). I would recommend:

 Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence Dementia, Moon In The Scorpio and The Ultimate Death Worship

Diabolical Masquerade - Death's Design, Nightwork and Ravendusk In My Heart

Negura Bunget - 'N Crugu Bradului and Maiastru Sfetnic

1349 - Beyond The Apocalypse

Akercocke (mix of Black and Death metal) - Choronzon, The Goat of Mendes

Anaal Nathrakh - The Codex Necro and Domine Non Es Dignus

There are more good bands but this will suffice for now

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 01:21
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Gothic metal - Type O Negative (quite a tongue-in-cheek band, but musically supreme, start with "World Coming Down", "October Rust" and "Bloody Kisses")



Type-O is a fabulous band, I have been into them for many years.  Howver, I would disagree with these recommendations.  Start with Bloody Kisses, then Life is Killing Me, Origin of the Feces, and October Rust (World Coming Down is, in fact, my least fav of their albums). 

Bloody Kisses is probably the crowning masterpiece of gothic metal.  brilliant songs and composition, with a touch of dark humor that's impossible to beat.  their cover of Summer Breeze is great and quite funny, but there are many amazing songs on that album. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 02:45

Thrash:

Anthrax-Spreading the Disease,Among the Living

Metallica-Kill em All,Ride the Lightning,Master of Puppets

Megadeth-Pease Sells...but Who's Buying?,Rust in Peace

Slayer-Hell Awaits,Reign in Blood,South of Heaven

Stormtroopers of Death-Speak English or Die

Sacred Reich-Ignorance,American Way

Death Angel-Act III

Exodus-Bonded by Blood,Fabulous Disaster

Nuclear Assault-Survive,Handle with Care

Overkill-The Years of Decay

Metal Church-Metal Church,Blessing in Disguise,Human Factor

Testament-The Legacy,The New Order,The Ritual



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 03:20

Since I'd say the classics have been pretty well established, here are some of my personal faves.

Power Metal:
Kamelot - The Black Halo
Stratovarius - Episode
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle Earth
Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder (although beware, they have black metal-esque vocals)

Thrash Metal:
Sodom - Agent Orange
Watchtower - Control and Resistance
Atheist - Unquesitonable Presence (it blurs the line between thrash and death metal, but I'm putting it down as thrash)

Brutal Death:
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
Cryptopsy - None So Vile
Death - The Sound of Peseverence (not quite as brutal, but certainly not melodic)
Gorguts - Obscura

Melodic Death:
In Flames - The Jester Race
At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul
Edge of Sanity - Crimson (not really melodic death in the same sense, but not really brutal either)
Opeth - Blackwater Park (ditto with the above)
Hypocrisy - Virus
Arsis - A Diamond For Disease

In addition...

Black Metal:
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Anaal Nathrakh - Total f**king Necro
Ulver - Bergtatt, Nattens Madrigal
Burzum - Filosofem
Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors (not really black metal, but generally classified as such)

Some albums which don't really fit clearly under any single subgenre (all listed on PA, but none of them are prog-metal in the Dream Theater sense):

Meshuggah - Catch 33
Maudlin of the Well - Bath/Leaving Your Body Map
Cynic - Focus


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 04:01
Originally posted by walrus333 walrus333 wrote:

Also as far as Black Metal goes does anyone think Immortal is worth checking out?


Absolutely. What a great band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 06:50

Some personal black metal favourites:

Enslaved - anything really, but "Mardraum" stands out for me. Their newest album, "ISA" is even better, but doesn't really fit the "black" label.

Old Man's Child - Ill-Natured Spiritual Invasion

Windir - Arntor, 1184

Morgul - The horror grandeur

Rakoth - Planeshift (Russian band, great stuff)

Thorns - Thorns

And I second Immortal, especially "At the Heart of Winter".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 09:45

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Folk Metal - Is there such a thing?


Ha! Your ignorance amuses me.

I must admit that yours pisses me off. I didn't know IQs went that low.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:00
- it's not that big a deal..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:21

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

- it's not that big a deal..

My point exactly.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:42

Get these!!

  • Metallica - Kill'em All
  • Metallica - Ride The Lightning
  • Metallica - Master Of Puppets
  • Metallica - ...And Justice For All
  • Slayer - Hell Awaits
  • Slayer - Reign In Blood
  • Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast
  • Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind
  • Iron Maiden - Powerslave
  • Iron Maiden - Live After Death
  • Iron Maiden - Somewhere In Time
  • Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
  • AC/DC - Let There Be Rock
  • AC/DC - Highway To Hell
  • AC/DC - If You Want Blood (You've Got It)
  • AC/DC - Back In Black

RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 05:25

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

EDIT: How could I have forgotten black metal... get Mayhem's "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas" and "A Grand Declaration of War", Satyricon's "Nemesis Divina" and "Rebel Extravaganza", all the albums by Emperor, Dimmu Borgir's "Spiritual Black Dimensions", Cradle of Filth's "Vempire" and wait for Logos to come, give you some more black metal recommendations and flame me for suggesting Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth


- btw, your suggestions are so UN-TRUE .. Mayhem is totally mainstream . I'd recommend something totally UG like Infernum's Taur-nu-fuin or Clandestine Blaze's Fist of the Northern Destroyer.

No, but seriously.. the 5 essential (but not the best .. ) black metal albums are as follows..

Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Satyricon - Nemesis Divina
Ulver - Nattens Madrigal

Good suggestions - although first get well acquainted with Emperor, Mayhem, Satyricon etc. and THEN ONLY get Darkthrone and Ulver's "Nattens Madrigal" (really uncompromising stuff, maybe a bit too uncompromising)

And everyone, sorry for not responding earlier, I had some major issues with the Internet over the last few days and couldn't even log out!   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 19:16
For death if you're a fan of prog is sacriligious to ignore Athiest's Unquestionable Prescence. Very proggy and Jazzy. Try to get the reissue.

Immolation, Cryptopsy, Gorguts, Death and Morbid Angel I heartily endorse.

I didn't like the new Nile album because it soundedl ike all the albums they'd done before.

Power Metal: I find most power metal to be nothing but 5th rate Iron Maiden ripoffs so the 2 bands I reccommend to you are Virgin Steele (very epic concept albums) and Manilla Road (who coined the term Epic Metal)

and Manowar are worth it for the pure cheese factor.

Thrash: Death Angel (technical as f**k!)

Dark Angel-Darkness Descends (makes Reign in Blood sound like the Beatles)

Black Metal:
Enslaved: This band has been progressive their entire career and they're no longer BM really

Nargaroth-Herbsleytd. One of the greatest BM releases ever.

Emperor: Everything up to Anthems... After this I stopped listening to them but if all you care about is technicality over songwriting, then the more recent stuff you will like.

Inquisition: Into The Infernal REgions of the Ancient Cult. This album really reminds me of the atmosphere I felt when I fearst heard stuff like De Mysteriis... and Nargaroth.

Forgotten Woods: Mistakenly labelled as Burzum rip-offs. Very epic compositions

Limbonic Art-Moon in the Scorpio. One of the very few "symphonic" BM albums that doesn't suck goat excrement.

If you want more recommendations, I *ahem* reccomend you listen to my radio show friday nights
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 19:19

Originally posted by Goblinisgod Goblinisgod wrote:

Dark Angel-Darkness Descends (makes Reign in Blood sound like the Beatles)

I always thought this album was a tad bit overrated...  it is sloppy and a lot of the songs tend to run on into each other.  In my opinion, Dark Angel hit their peak with the technical and complex masterpiece, Time Does Not Heal, which some days I would even swear is the best thrash album ever written.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 19:34
I forgot to mention Doom-Metal my favourite style.

yoou can check www.doom-metal.com since its the authority.

For Traditional Doom:
Pentagram (US) started out the same time as Sabbath
Solitude Aeternus (Rob Lowe is an incredible vocalist)
Candlemass (The Doom Gods)
Reverend Bizarre (Heavier and more sarcastic than most Trad Doom Bands. Crazy Finns )
Trouble (Very good musically but extremely preachy christian metal though)
Cathedral (essential band regardless of style they're playing)
Goat Snake-Essentially blues based Metal. One of the millions of projects involving the great Stephen O'Malley and Greg Anderson


Stoner
Electric Wizard
Sleep (sounded like Sabbath clones until they did Jerusalem/Dopesmoker. A 52/60 minute single track epic)
YOB (Weird vocals but very heavy)

Doom-Death:
Winter (started it all)
Disembowelment (faster than most Doom bands. Very atmospheric)
My Dying Bride (essential)
Anathema, Katatonia and Paradise Lost (early stuff is essential for these 3 bands. Katatonia is the only one worth listening to now as PLst are 10th Depeche Mode ripoffs and Anathema are 5th Radiohead ripoffs)
The Prophecy-Modern Doom Death with lots of variation in the songwriting and harmonic guitar leads. One of the more exciting bands to listen to.
Dusk (underrated and obscure, but very good)
Aphotic (Ibid. More dissonant than Dusk)
Morgion (one of my favourite bands, now sadly disbanded. But the last 2 albums they did (Solinair and Cloaked by Ages...) are amazing

Funeral Doom
Skepticism-listen to this at your funeral
Unholy-Very weird and hard to listen to
Esoteric-one of the most incredible listening experiences of any genre awaits you with these misanthropic Brits
Thergothon-Finnish fathers of the genre. Very underproduced and ugly sounding. Fhtgan Nagh Yog Sothoth indeed
Until Death Overtakes Me-More charming funeral music. A bit too repetitive at times however

Drone
Earth-Fathers of the genre
Sunn O)))- Started out as a Earth (!) homage, now evolved into something more interesting. Another of O'Malley's bands
Khanate-This is sick music, very challenging. Another of O'Malley's bands. Check out Burning Witch first as its among the same lines but older and therefore less challening.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 19:46

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 08:53
^Goblin , do you know Swallow the Sun?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 19:15

Originally posted by Goblinisgod Goblinisgod wrote:

Thrash: Death Angel (technical as f**k!)

I heartily endorse the frequent listening and observation of their album "The Ultra-Violence," in large and loud quantities! 

Check out Death's Live in LA album.  Very raw and powerful, I prefer it to their studio work. 

And definately get some DragonForce, even if just for Herman Li's insane guitar pyrotechnics. 

Also, another interesting black metal band is the American group Windham Hell.  Get "Reflective Depths Imbibe," it a fantastic album. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2005 at 07:56

Originally posted by Sam Fire Sam Fire wrote:

Also, another interesting black metal band is the American group Windham Hell.  Get "Reflective Depths Imbibe," it a fantastic album. 

Where's the black metal in it?

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