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Asyte2c00 
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 Topic: Frances the Mute-TMV
Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:22 |
I am considering to puchase tthe most recent TMV release. However, on amazon.com it appears that the epic track Cassandra Gemini has been separated into six smaller tarcks the comprise of a longer track.
Why do they do this?
The same happned with ELP's BSS remastereed US release, Karn Evil has been broken up into three impressions three seaprte track which hinders the general flow of the record, ths I had to get the imported copy of BSS.
Is this album worth getting?
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Ty1020
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:24 |
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What difference does it make? If you play all the tracks in a row, there's no interruption of flow at all.
Just a note: The track listings you see most places are completely
wrong. Cassandra Geminni comprises tracks 5-12 of the CD (the listing
here on PA is correct).
If it's that big of a deal to you, though, the version of the song available on iTunes is just one big 31 minute track.
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richardh
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:26 |
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I've only had it for a week but in my opinion YES! Its excellent modern prog.Fearless and exciting.I'll let others give you a more detailed description.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 18:11 |
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Get it immediately. I can not praise it enough.
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 18:22 |
It's amazing, the best band in years
(*Looks out for Flossy*) Better than any progmetal band I know except DT
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 19:50 |
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if they didnt split the tracks, technically it would be an EP with only 5 songs, but it would still be as long as an LP.
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Ty1020
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 20:00 |
 GoldenSpiral wrote:
if they didnt split the tracks, technically it
would be an EP with only 5 songs, but it would still be as long as an
LP.
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That's an explanation I've heard before and it's completely absurd. The
difference between LP and EP isn't determined by the number of tracks
on the album - if that were the case, then classic prog albums like
Close to the Edge, Relayer, TFTO, Thick as a Brick, ITCOTCK, and so
many more would be EP's, which obviously isn't the case. They divided
the tracks that way to make it more digestible - they're split in
places where it's easy to just jump into the song, which is nice if you
don't have half an hour to spare. Listening to the piece in fragments
doesn't do it justice, but just because it's split into seperate tracks
doesn't mean you can't listen to the piece in its entirety (which is
what I always do).
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moonlapse
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 20:46 |
Wow - is TMV now the most overrated prog band in history? LOL.
I have FTM and just don't like it, after repeated listens.
There's better stuff out there to spend your money on. Good thing
it was relatively cheap. But, on a positive note it is better
than my Supergrass CD I Should Coco 
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The Ryan
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:30 |
moonlapse wrote:
Wow - is TMV now the most overrated prog band in history? LOL. I have FTM and just don't like it, after repeated listens. There's better stuff out there to spend your money on. Good thing it was relatively cheap. But, on a positive note it is better than my Supergrass CD I Should Coco |
You know, just because you don't like it does not mean it is overrated. Everybody else likes it anyways.
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moonlapse
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:39 |
The Ryan wrote:
You know, just because you don't like it does not mean it is overrated. Everybody else likes it anyways. |
I know it doesn't, that's why I asked!
But, everybody else??? Maybe you just answered my question 
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The Ryan
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:55 |
Everybody else who listens to quality progressive rock music == listens to the Mars Volta as well, even if it's not one of their favorite modern bands.
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moonlapse
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Posted: January 24 2006 at 22:08 |
So you did a survey? 
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anael
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 15:27 |
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go for it!
i guess a lot of people dont like Frances The Mute cause they dont understand the concept...
when you'll read the stories behind this album you're gonna love it more and more and more...
someday i read an article of TMV: they contacted Alejandro Jodorwosky to start the FTM film...
is that true or just a cruel lie?
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Gentle Tull
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 15:31 |
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Get it, it's good.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 04:22 |
GET IT!!! it's def the best album of 2005
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Figglesnout
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 11:35 |
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^^^about the film, i have also heard rumors that omar is indeed
producing a full-length music video, almost "The Wall" -esque for both
"De-loused" and "Frances" . I think it would be an amazing production,
especially considering I have strong conclusions about De-loused ( i
know teh story well) and frances as well.
as to whether this is true or not...i can't say, we'll just have to
wait and see...but if it is i'd say don't expect it until like
2007-2008 and possibly even '09 as sad as that sounds.
even if it's not done now, i feel that TMV is one of those bands that will do this or something similar to it in time.
btw i think but DO NOT quote
me on this, that Omar produced "The Widow" video alongside of the
director of the video, meaning we could expect the full-lengths to be
similar in quality--and the video itself sure leads us to believe there
is/was more with the beginning coming in out of nowhere and the end
fading out and turning scope...
we'll see...
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I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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Figglesnout
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 11:39 |
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^^^oh and if you got the album yet do you like it?
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I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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Erpland316
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 11:55 |
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Frances the Mute is probably my favorite album of 2005! It beats out Porcupine Tree's Deadwing by a long shot. They are probably the most creative and ORIGINAL band out today! If you dont own either of their two albums, buy them both NOW! Omar's guitar playing is so unique and adds such a distinct sound.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 11:58 |
The Miracle wrote:
It's amazing, the best band in years
(*Looks out for Flossy*) Better than any primeval band I know except DT
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Its not only Flossy you should fear!!!
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A'swepe
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 10:46 |
The Ryan wrote:
moonlapse wrote:
Wow - is TMV now the most overrated prog band in history? LOL. I have FTM and just don't like it, after repeated listens. There's better stuff out there to spend your money on. Good thing it was relatively cheap. But, on a positive note it is better than my Supergrass CD I Should Coco |
You know, just because you don't like it does not mean it is overrated. Everybody else likes it anyways.
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Not everybody! I will admit that I've only listened to it once. I will give it a fair chance. But after that one listen, I don't see what all the fireworks are about. This it Prog???
Many will argue that it is. I'm not yet convinced. After onlly one listen, I'm not sure my opinion is of any value, but I must admit that after one listen, Pallas' The Dreams Of Men has blown me over. I'm still on the floor - It's THAT good.
It's a good thing we don't all like the same stuff, isnt' it? Otherwise this place would blow.
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