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    Posted: July 02 2007 at 22:36
I have El Cielo, and I was intrigued at first, and gradually fell completely in love with it. I do find the vocals a bit trying after a time, and the range of notes used for the melodies a bit unadventurous... but the textures and overall production are absolutely gorgeous. I didn't even know there was a 5.1 release! I MUST have that.

I've honestly been a little afraid to pick up any of their other releases, as I've heard mixed reviews, and I don't want to be disappointed...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2007 at 05:11
I love this band!

I've only heard both albums once, but I was utterly impressed by both, and will surely listen to both records several times again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2007 at 15:26
Maybe the perfect comparison with gredg would be Radiohead, they started with 2 excellent Alt Rock albums, and then their sound experiments leaded them into Prog. Also dredg has Alternative influences but they have a close link to Prog Music itself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2007 at 15:11
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

Name another album influenced by both a Salvador Dali painting, life, and sleep paralysis, hell name another band that sounds ANYTHING like dredg and then tell me they aren't pretty experimental

What does having pseudo-complex concepts/lyrics have to do with being musically experimental? Confused

I like Dredg (Man Overboard can check my last.fm page if he doesn't believe me Wink), but I have to agree with Chamberry (again!). I hear no prog in them whatsoever. That doesn't make them any worse - nor better for that matter - in my books, btw.

Whether they're in Art Rock or Prog-related is hardly the biggest concern in my life, just thought I'd voice my opinion. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2007 at 10:55
Am I the one to like CATCH WITHOUT ARMS most?

Title track, Planting Seeds, Ode to the Sun (played it in a summer camp on discos ), Hung Over on a Tuesday...flawless
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2007 at 21:38
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

none of those bands sound anything like dredg what are you talking about. The strength of the band is what isn't there.

Well I wasn't going to mention Dredg clones. I was just pointing out bands with a similar style as Dredg and showing you that they are not experimental. And about the strength, well, we're not talking about bands being better than Dredg, are we?
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It's almost minimalist rock, like Radiohead

Minimalist rock? Radiohead? Did you really listened to those bands?

I can't see anything minimalist in any of those bands, but it seems that we have radically different views of our music so I'm not going to continue on with this discussion.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2007 at 08:33
none of those bands sound anything like dredg what are you talking about.  The strength of the band is what isn't there.  It's almost minimalist rock, like Radiohead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2007 at 21:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2007 at 11:35
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

Name another album influenced by both a Salvador Dali painting, life, and sleep paralysis,

Sorry I can't, but does having a original concept makes them prog? Not to me.

Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:


hell name another band that sounds ANYTHING like dredg and then tell me they aren't pretty experimental

Yes I can and it isn't very hard to either:

The Postman Syndrome
. Think Dredg, but heavier.

Youthmovie Soundtrack Strategies. Another one sounding like Dredg, but more daring more complex.

The Grand Silent System
. The one that's closer to Dredg's sound, but jazzier.


There you have it. Three bands that do sound like Dredg and they are not  experimental. Experimental bands are Set Fire To Flames, Yellow Swans, Circle, Faust, Charalambides and others, not "alternative prog" bands like Dredg.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2007 at 08:02
Name another album influenced by both a Salvador Dali painting, life, and sleep paralysis, hell name another band that sounds ANYTHING like dredg and then tell me they aren't pretty experimental
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2007 at 14:04
Originally posted by xhamasaki xhamasaki wrote:

As with Radiohead, Tool, The Mars Volta, and several other bands on this site... dredg falls into the category of if you dont like them "you just dont get it"
 
thats all I have to say, and I think people who think they should be on this website agree...
 
if you don't like them and can't see why they are a progressive rock band, you just don't get it.... sorry
 
I added them to the archives, so I don't want to see such an experimental band taken off because someone listened to them for 5 minutes and decided they weren't good because they didnt throw in 100000 solos and use 85 time signature changes in the same song

Sorry xhamasaki, but I don't agree with you. I do like Dredg and I'm a fan of their El Cielo album. The problem is that I have trouble seeing them as a full on prog band. They may be an intelligent alternative rock band (not saying that alternative rock is dumb, by the way), but prog band it's not.

And, Dredg experimental?! Since when?

I know from what side you come from and I respect your opinion on seeing them as a prog band. And believe me, I know that bands don't need to have "100000 solos and use 85 time signature changes in the same song" to be prog.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2007 at 13:49
^Nice to see you back dude!Big%20smile

Thanks for adding them, otherwise I might've never discivered them!Hug
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2007 at 09:05
As with Radiohead, Tool, The Mars Volta, and several other bands on this site... dredg falls into the category of if you dont like them "you just dont get it"
 
thats all I have to say, and I think people who think they should be on this website agree...
 
if you don't like them and can't see why they are a progressive rock band, you just don't get it.... sorry
 
I added them to the archives, so I don't want to see such an experimental band taken off because someone listened to them for 5 minutes and decided they weren't good because they didnt throw in 100000 solos and use 85 time signature changes in the same song
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 20:17
By popular opinion on Allmusic.com and Pitchforkmedia.com, dredg are considered alternative progressive, more or less. I agree, but without hearing Leitmotif, I can't give a full view of their discography and aura in full. Taking into account El Cielo and Catch Without Arms, I'll describe them as sonically and conceptually adventurous alternative rock with strong progressive music tendencies, worthy of being on this site in one form or another. I'm fine with them in Art Rock now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 20:12
What's the problem? The site says " Progressive music sub-genre: Art Rock". I think that fits dredg as well as any title. El Cielo is one of my favorite albums and I haven't even heard of the 5.1 mix! Embarrassed The music is so beautifully layered and the album flows through it's different stages so well. The sort of "journey" that the album takes you on and the many layers definitely makes it progressive in my mind. Leitmotif is a toss up for me...it has parts that are beautifully layered and well done but other parts (especially with the singing) is downright irritating. Catch Without Arms? Definitely the least progressive of the three but perhaps my most played (currently). It's certainly more accessible and more "fun"? It definitely must be said though that the more you listen to Catch Without Arms the more progressiveness comes out. It has very buried complexity/thought.

I'll throw in another vote for disking these sorts of threads too. Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2007 at 17:55
Originally posted by SolariS SolariS wrote:


meh, i bought catch without arms and thought it was terrible. i'd like to give one of their other albums a fair chance, but i think im already prejudiced too much against them.





I hated Catch Without Arms when I first got it too.  it takes a few listens to notice the subtleties they use with their guitar work.  It's not as bluntly technical as most prog, but very complex and beautiful all the same.  just give it a bit of time...Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2007 at 17:30

meh, i bought catch without arms and thought it was terrible. i'd like to give one of their other albums a fair chance, but i think im already prejudiced too much against them.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2007 at 11:19

wh0pa i'm waring these trioppy gl;asases riihght now and i't's realu hard to type. everythging is likke one big psychedelic kaliuedescope. you guys wold love3 these Cool

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2007 at 11:15
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by Fight Club Fight Club wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by Winand007 Winand007 wrote:

well the album wasn't prog at all, just alternative in my eyes


And who the hell are you?  Linkin Park is on your top 10 list and they're bloody awful, maybe you should be removed from the Archives.  Your eyes are blind and your opinion is worthless.
 
That's a little harsh there man. Did you ever think maybe he never used his last fm much and used to listen to sh*t music? During that time he may have racked up quite a few plays for LP before getting into prog. I have a lot of friends like that including myself. Don't be so quick to judge even if you could be right.


His Last.FM is active, I checked first.  His recent stuff is a combination of angst-rock and technical w**kery, with a few decent bands thrown in...  of -course- he didn't appreciate dredg, he doesn't have the maturity.

As for my harshness...  what else do you expect from me?  Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2007 at 02:47
Progressive rock is very wide-ranging and music is change all the time. It's pretty normal that some bands let us news forms and elements to prog. I think this is the best quality on prog music. Dredg is one of these bands and they are prog and a great band.
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