Tool, Nine Inch Nails

Deathrabbit wrote: I always thought this site's strength was cataloging unknown gems for people to discover. I think that should be the focus, rather than putting the microscope on every well known band, looking for progressive elements. That's all I have to say on it. That and Primus really needs to be in the Eclectic category /hypocrisy

Well, your signature doesn't reveal wherefrom you hail, but as a general note people would benefit from considering that what is well known in their own backyard might not be well known with your neighbour. Particularly not if you're American, curiously enough. Examplewise I'm not familiar with Primus touring once in Europe, probably with good and economically justified cause. I've known Rush to have had one tour in the northern half of Europe the last 20 years or so, and Nine Inch Nails just don't sell as much here. I might be unprecise, but you get the general picture. I'm here to find out what's moving in the scene, regardless of whether a band grew up playing prog in a prog club for a prog audience, or whether commercial success in parts of the world might have disqualified certain bands in certain people's eyes.

I always thought this site's strength was cataloging unknown gems for people to discover. I think that should be the focus, rather than putting the microscope on every well known band, looking for progressive elements. That's all I have to say on it.

That and Primus really needs to be in the Eclectic category /hypocrisy

NIN are great but to put them in here suggests that anything avant-garde in its respective genre deserves a place here.

That essentially means every post-rock, contemporary classical and free jazz band as well.

I'm not 100% sure on how to define what goes here so fair enough.

It's been interesting to watch the site traffic as reported by Alexa after this addition though ;-)

So basically... Billy Idol for prog archives!

I never thought I'd see them added, and I was unsure NIN is even a good addition. Nonetheless I am absolutely enthralled that they/he are here. The Downward Spiral and The Fragile are two albums I put on a pedestal and are two absolute favorites. I love pretty much anything else Trent makes, with The Slip probably being the only weak NIN album IMO.

I'll have to get in a review for The Downward Spiral soon. Perfection!

Although... why is say, Asia, or fricken Nightwish more prog than NIN? Because they are all "symphonic" sounding? At least NIN has progressive song structures occasionally. Although it is usually pop song structure (but again, so are Asia, Nightwish and many other bands on the site).

Personally I thought their later albums, which were used as arguments for their inclusion, presented the weakest arguments. The Fragile and The Downwards Spiral sold a rather skeptical me on this suggestion though.

Honestly, it seems the rules have overruled the rulemakers.

The criteria for Prog Related are now way too strict, channeling every and any band into Crossover Prog. I don't think that was the intention.

My advice: Change the odd critera for Prog Related. Keep Prog Related as an open category for bands and artists that should be included on a more or less emotional basis (generelly regarded), as seems to be the case with many suggestions. And channel the wildcards from Crossover to Related.

NIN are here to stay.......................move on