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mark kraken
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Topic: Flower Kings Appreciation ThreadPosted: Today at 07:41 |
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another good band doing prog with inventiveness, good musicianship ,the flower kings are band that play similar complex prog from the 70s, and have the originality within there music there should be more bands like this, infact diagonal a new band that play good prog plus have vintage keyboards. i think progs is starting to turn full circle.
unfold the future
stardust we are
flower power
rainmaker
retropolis
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infandous
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How to list my top 20 albums? I'm not sure I can do it as it changes fairly regularly. However, I will list 20 in no particular order that have stood the test of time for me and/or I just think are brilliant.
Asgard - Arkana Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans Comus - First Utterance Genesis - Nursery Cryme Present - Triskaidekaphobie ELP - Tarkus Rush - Permanent Waves Scorpions - Lonesome Crow Jesus Christ Superstar (original recording) Miles Davis - In A Silent Way Flower Kings - Retropolis Flower Kings - Unfold The Future Klaus Shulze - Mirage Pink Floyd - Meddle Tomas Bodin - I AM Gentle Giant - Acquiring the Taste Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts Frank Zappa - Lather IQ - The Wake Deus Ex Machina - De Republica I've tried to put in a lot of variety here, but as others have stated there are so many more I could add that are on the same level as these in my mind. And, to be honest (and true to this thread) just about every Flower Kings album could easily be included (only Adam & Eve really is a lesser album to me, though even that one has it's great moments for me). Even though they are the only band mentioned more than once, I could easily have added more Yes albums, more Genesis albums, more ELP albums, more Gentle Giant albums, and more Zappa albums. The ones listed of those bands are just my favorites, but all have other albums I would consider top 20 depending on my mood. Edited by infandous - Yesterday at 13:13 |
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Roj M30
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Ahhh, back to our school days old chum. It's great to reminisce. Whilst most loved ELO, Quo, Motorhead, Led Zep and AC/DC (remember Cookie, Smiffy etc
On guitars Stolt is the king, no doubt. As for Gilmour v Howe, Howe is a great technician but I personally prefer DG's style. Roine has taken influence from both and is the more rounded and in my opinion the best guitarist there is or has been.
Wright was
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Roj M30
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Posted: Yesterday at 07:27 |
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.......as I've told you a million or so times.
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Roj M30
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Posted: Yesterday at 07:24 |
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A while away and how much have I missed
Going For The One and Animals eh? What a choice. Both from the same year and IMHO the best album by each band (along with TFK these are my three fave bands).
Animals - magical album, their most progressive too. Just listen to Sheep, that amazing instrumental section in the middle and then the superb ending. Surely Floyd never sounded better? Add to the fact that I adore Dogs and Pigs is pretty fab too and you have a 5-star monster.
Going For The One. What can I say, simply Yes' peak. There's not many tracks that bring me to tears through their sheer beauty, but two on here do. Awaken is for me the peak of symphonic prog, full stop. Other than this only TFK have ever reached this level for me. It's a track that I simply can't listen to while driving as the intensity is just too much for me. I always have to pull over to the roadside to listen. As I've known this for 30 years that is some compliment I'd say. Turn Of The Century is magical too, and lyrically it is simply stunning. Add to that the magnificence of Parallels and the majesty of Wonderous Stories and you have another 5-star jobbie. I even like the title track too.
Tom? Top 20 albums? Wow. Off the top of my head (and staying topical) I'd go thus:-
1. TFK - Stardust We Are
2. Yes - Going For The One
3. Pink Floyd - Animals
4. TFK - Space Revolver
5. Eddie Jobson/Zinc - The Green Album
6. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
7. IQ - The Seventh House
8. The Black Dog - Spanners
9. ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
10. UK - Danger Money
11. Glass Hammer - Lex Rex
12. Boards Of Canada - Music Has The Right To Children
13. Genesis - Selling England By The Pound
14. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
15. Plaid - Spokes
16. TFK - World Of Adventures
17. Yes - TFTO
18. The Black Dog - Bytes
19. Todd Rundgren's Utopia
20. UK - UK
The top four are solid, but the order varies. As for the remainder, subject to regular change. And like Jeff, I probably missed out loads too
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Dial Emma..............
It's almost December and I haven't got a clue which CD's I should ask my sons n wife to buy me for Winter Solstice.......
Does anybody know a metal band who have done a classical covers CD?
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You are right about them being unique. I remember when I first got into "newer" prog, one of the first bands I loved of course was Dream Theater, which made me seek out other prog metal. It seemed that everything I checked out was a sub-par imitation of Dream Theater- but once I got a hold of my first Pain of Salvation album (Perfect Element Part 1, coincidently), I was blown away by how different it was and I got excited that there is more to the prog metal genre than just Dream Theater clones. Of course, I've come to discover other wonderful prog metal bands, but Pain of Salvation was when I first realized that there can be diversity within the genre. I might have to change my top 20... |
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J-Man
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 19:36 |
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Scarsick is a really poor album. I almost don't consider it to be part of their discography. There's just something about PoS that is so unique that no other bands can capture. I would say it's probably the contrast between beautiful vocal harmonies, metal riffs, and sheer magic that I find to be so present on TPE. None of this is on Scarsick, however. It has some cool moments, but the absolutely awful and immature lyrics in addition to the lack of what made me become a PoS fan in the first place doesn't appeal to me at all. |
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 19:32 |
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I used to be a big Pain of Salvation fan and would have put The Perfect Element Part 1 in my top 20 easily...but I've kind of fallen out of love with them, especially after being pretty disappointed by Scarsick. I think it is about time that I revisit them and remember what I used to love about them so much...
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J-Man
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 19:25 |
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You don't have that?!!?!?!? Quick! Run to your local record store and buy it before it's too late!!!!![]() ![]() ![]() In all seriousness, it is an excellent concept-driven album. Just everything there is perfect IMO. It was #2 for a while, but after listening to it some more recently, I bumped it up one. |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 19:17 |
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^wow! never thought you were such a big fan of Script, I really love that album too.
Seems I need to listen to Pefect Element, Part 1 someday... |
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J-Man
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 19:05 |
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These are my top 20:
1. The Perfect Element, Pt. 1- Pain of Salvation 2. Scenes From a Memory- Dream Theater 3. Foxtrot- Genesis 4. Snow- Spock's Beard 5. Crimson- Edge of Sanity 6. ?- Neal Morse 7. Still Life- Opeth 8. BE- Pain of Salvation 9. Bridge Across Forever- Transatlantic 10. Selling England By The Pound- Genesis 11. Sola Scriptura- Neal Morse 12. The Shaming of the True- Kevin Gilbert 13. Symbolic- Death 14. Remedy Lane- Pain of Salvation 15. The Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings 16. Abbey Road- The Beatles 17. Close To The Edge- Yes 18. Images & Words- Dream Theater 19. Script For A Jester's Tear- Marillion 20. V- Spock's Beard I know I probably forgot many.... |
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 18:41 |
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I'll play!
DISCLAIMER: BIG Neal Morse fan-boy 20. The Kindness of Strangers- Spock's Beard 19. Abbey Road- The Beatles 18. Milliontown- Frost* 17. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence- Dream Theater 16. My River Flows- Izz 15. Stardust We Are- The Flower Kings 14. The Wall- Pink Floyd 13. Into The Electric Castle- Ayreon 12. Close To The Edge- Yes 11. V- Spock's Beard 10. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway- Genesis 9. The Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings 8. ?- Neal Morse 7. Scenes From A Memory- Dream Theater 6. Testimony- Neal Morse 5. Snow- Spock's Beard 4. One- Neal Morse 3. Sola Scriptura- Neal Morse 2. The Whirlwind- Transatlantic 1. Bridge Across Forever- Transatlantic Edited by natewait - November 18 2009 at 18:46 |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 18:37 |
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^great idea!
From top of my head, my top 10 any genre: - Come Taste the Band - Deep Purple - Meddle - Pink Floyd - The Yes Album - Yes - Who Are You - The Who - Crime of the Century - Supertramp - Obscured by Clouds - Pink Floyd - Stormbringer - Deep Purple - Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull - Trespass - Genesis - Zappa in New York - Frank Zappa |
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 18:21 |
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ADD in addition to the fact that we've talked about just about everything Flower Kings related at least twice. . . it takes a lot of redundancy to get to page 64. Oh shoot, I didn't even realize, my last post was my one thousandth post (yeah, I know, probably 600 of them were in this thread). So here's a question for all of you Flower King fans, what are your favorite CD's. Obviously we all like or love the Flower Kings, and at the same time, we all love other bands / CD's as well. What are your twenty favorite albums (could be Flower Kings, could be anything else). I'm thinking that we could all learn about a few new CD's that we've overlooked by learning what the other Flower King fans enjoy. I don't want to post this in the top ten section as that will attract lots of people who don't like the Flower Kings. I just want to see what the common interests are, besides The Flower Kings. Me, I don't know what my twenty favorites are at the moment, give me a day or two and I'll post a list. I'll compile the results after Roger gets back and has a chance to post. Enjoy, |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:18 |
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^I rate GftO 3 stars, but really do not enjoy it, the first few minutes of Awaken and from Parallel.
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 15:01 |
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And just as a point of reference, I do really enjoy Going For The One. It's a 3.5 star album for me. But considering the other two are solid 4.5's, it is a pretty big difference.
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 14:26 |
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 14:22 |
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1. Animals
2. Drama 3. Going For the One ![]() |
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Animals > Drama >>> Going for the One Now. Peace. (and if you didn't read, I love Yes) |
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