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zumacraig
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Nice response. Thanks. Yeah, appreciating and enjoying are different things. It's just really interesting to me personally how the same band can make music I absolutely love and music I just don't like. It's the same elements, just in a different configuration. No apologies, just different. Anyway, I will work less hard!
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Nov
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Sorry to disappoint you Roj.......... Space Revolver is always going to be my favourite TFK album because it's the first one I heard and I feel a special connection to it. Plus, "I Am The Sun part 2" is my favourite piece of music from the past 15 years or so. Just for the record, here are my top 3 TFK albums: 1) Space Revolver 2) Flower Power 3) Unfold The Future ........and my top 3 epics: 1) I Am The Sun 2) Garden Of Dreams 3) Monsters & Men I just can't understand the different opinions on M&M. It is an awesome piece of music from beginning to end. Shivers up the spine abound! (on a different day, The Truth Will Set You Free would sneak in there ) |
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infandous
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Well, I don't think Retropolis is at all cheesy either. There are no tracks on that album I could live without. |
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infandous
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Just as I can't understand the praise it gets Of course, as I've been saying, it's not "bad" in any way really, I just don't get much enjoyment out of it. It's well recorded and played, and I can appreciate the musical craftsmanship (it IS the FK's, after all). It's just that after hearing it dozens and dozens of times, I just don't find myself enjoying it much. The rest of your choices are all in my top 5 though |
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Roland113
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I'm going to chime in here for a moment or two on a few different subjects:
Monsters and Men: I, like Infandous, have given Monsters and Men more than it's fair share of listens, Paradox Hotel is my favorite FK release, I should probably like the big epic, especially when so many of my esteemed colleagues love it . . . sadly, that never came across for me and really, I kind of gave up on the song. Still don't care for it. (though ironically enough, I'm going to give it a listening along with the rest of Paradox Hotel). Top three FK CD's: 1) Paradox Hotel, 2) Unfold the Future, 3) Space Revolver Top four FK tracks: 1) I am the Sun (complete), 2) Serious Dreamers, 3) End on a High Note, 4) Stardust We Are. I added a fourth because it was so close to 3rd that I included it. Rock on everyone.
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zumacraig
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Serious Dreamers and I Am The Sun have some great synth solos. TFK needs more of those and long ones at that.
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infandous
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I hadn't given it much thought, but Paradox should probably be higher in my list of favorites since I love everything on it except for Monsters and Men. I'll have to give some serious thought to ranking their albums, since I probably haven't done that in several years. Roughly for now though: 1) Retropolis, 2) Unfold, 3) Space Revolver Tracks would be (again, roughly): 1) Garden Of Dreams, 2) Stardust We Are, 3) The Sum Of No Reason |
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zumacraig
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It'd probably be easier for me to list favorite song on each album. There's so many.
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Roj
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Ok, I'll go with:-
Albums - Flower Power, Space Revolver and Stardust We Are (prob in that order) Tracks - Garden of Dreams and I Am The Sun (complete) for sure, tough to pick a third to be honest there's so much choice. I'll go with Theme For A Hero as third choice at the moment. (Don't worry Nov, Monsters and Men was a contender ) |
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Tom Ozric
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Now, we wouldn't visit this thread if we didn't adore the Flower Kings' approach to modern Prog - I am familiar with most of their albums since 'Back In The World Of Adventures' - 'Rising The Imperial' off 'Banks Of Eden' is by far, a most moving and emotional piece of Prog music. On this track alone, I m more than impressed with TFK
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Roj
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Ahh you'll be talking about The Truth Will Set You Free, tis indeed a great version and I'd agree probably better than he studio version. I think you might well like GoD too, as the bits you like least are cut out . Did you get the dvd/cd version or just cd? |
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Roland113
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Did the offer involve Celine Dion?
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Roland113
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Agreed, I think "Rising the Imperial" is easily one of the best songs on Banks and Jonas Reingold does a lot of pretty things on the bass there.
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M27Barney
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Hmmm role playing for REAL DEPRAVOES hey.....Celine Dion and the blind, deaf and dumb postman....well he'd have to be wouldn't he....No she just stroked behind her ears with a pristine copy of Flower Power and the scent of pure prog sent ME WILD........... |
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infandous
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So I listened to the first Agents Of Mercy album recently. I have to say, it's a much better album than I thought when it came out. I think it got a bad rap because it was basically Roine's follow up to the uber prog of TSONE. When compared to that (or a lot of other FK albums), it is pretty lightweight. However, I find my favorites are the songs that were obviously written for the original idea, a Roine acoustic solo album (which I hope he will still do someday). There is, of course, a nice dollop of prog throughout the album as well, but unlike the next to Agents albums, it doesn't really have much in the way of Rock. No heaviness at all really. Though I noticed that the more prog sounding numbers would easily fit on more recent Flower Kings albums (like Paradox Hotel or Banks). In fact, the most recent Agents album, while great, really doesn't sound much different than the Flower Kings to me, aside from Nad's vocal style and the occasional shred solo from Lalle. Particularly the title track really sound like a Flower Kings tune to me. The first and second album have more of a unique vibe to them, even if it is more mellow than we're used to from Roine's projects.
Anyway, just an observation after giving that album (and the Black Forest) a good listening recently, for this first time in probably a year or more. (and yes, I'd say I like all 3 of them as much as Banks, probably Black Forest I like even more) Edited by infandous - June 05 2013 at 17:45 |
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Will have to check out the debut AoM album one day. I know the 2nd and 3rd album, but have yet to dive into the first. I did listen to TSONE today though. Felt appropriate with the gorgeous day it's been outside today.
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zumacraig
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I too hope Roine does an acoustic album. Afternoon Skies on the first AoM album is a touch point. I like AoM, but Nad is a bit tough to take at times.
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infandous
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Yeah, vocalists are generally love or hate, especially ones with as much character as Nad. Personally, I've loved his vocal sound and singing style since the first time I heard it, and it only gets better with each new thing I hear from him. On the other hand, Hasse Froberg often gets on my nerves with his 80's rock belting. Sometimes I think he's excellent (Instant Delivery is a good example, or his part in There Is More To This World), other times I find him grating and irritating (early on on Tour Kaputt, his solo work, Sword Of God). |
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