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Poll Question: Does Hip Hop hold potential as an art form?
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2 [2.82%]
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    Posted: January 26 2006 at 07:33

1. House Of Pain

2. Cypress Hill

3. Wu Tang Clan

The old school of hip hop bands create great albums - but it's a matter of taste

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Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

hip hop? music?


Ah cummon! Even rap isn't my kind of music (by the way there's a difference between hip hop and rap) it has a right to exist. I guess the stuff you hear on TV is different to the more unknown stuff. I really don't like rap, but you have to give it a chance, though it is not that thought over as prog.

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Hip Hop Rap etc Worst music ever! Can't stand it!!!
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Its an art form, just not a very good one
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I've got an artificial 'hip-hop' in my left leg as a result of arthritis...does that count?
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I'm indifferent when it comes to rap/hip-hop.

As I've never tried listening to anything besides the commercial, MTV rap, I'm not educated enough on the subject to make a truly informed opinion although, I'm quite certain there is potential behind the genre.
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Voted yes. There used to be in the '80's some very creative hip hop, like Dream Warriors, De La Soul and Public Enemy. After the '80's no doubt there is still a lot of good stuff, but I didn't check that out anymore. To busy with other genres.
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Rap used to be legit muisc, but not anymore. But why do I care? I don't even like rap.

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Hip-hop? Hell no! If you mean 50 cent and those ksuckers with their money, their cars and their girls, they are absolutely no musical there. No art. No music. Only a way to make money.

Rap? Maybe... Rap means Rhytmes And Poetry, and every poetry is a kind of art. The problem is that it almost doesn't exist anymore. I do not like it though, but it seem to be that it is a art form.

 
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hip hop? music?
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Well, just for the record, I love really good hip hop for one of the same reasons that I love really good country...that reason being in the fact that I had previously completely discredited it due to what I was being exposed to in pop culture.  Then I ran into that genre at some point, but it was being utilized by someone who actually had "musical" and "artistic" talent, and it was a completely new and different and fresh world and I was feeling what I assumed to be many of the same raw and abstract emotions that all of the ignorant fukkers who listened to the mainstream sh*tt were feeling.  Maybe I'm wrong there.  Maybe those people are actually just moronic automatons.
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Originally posted by Hangedman Hangedman wrote:

Man there is a LOT of teenagers or "young adults" here, im only 18 myself

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My only friend who listens to a bit of prog also listens to hip hop, but hardly anyone else I do listens to either. Well I got my jazz liking friend to listen to King Crimson and a couple of my friends who I was at school with listen to some prog metal but that's basically it.
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Originally posted by Crimson Prince Crimson Prince wrote:

I am the only teenager (besides maybe Reed Lover and Sweetnighter) that listens to prog. I mean, every kid discovers DSOTM and the Wall in their time; but I am talking about the more esoteric "core" of prog like Yes, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, Marillion, and Rush. All the teens I have met face-to-face only like rap. I find rap repetitive (talking about drugs, gangland happenings, welfare, lashing out at Prez Bush, and other democratic soapbox issues) and always dwelling on one particular melody in a song. It is so annoying with the glittery backbeats and keyboard noises.

Man there is a LOT of teenagers or "young adults" here, im only 18 myself
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Points: 1239 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2005 at 12:56

God knows I've tried. I spent most of the 90s trying to be hip to hop but in the end I just gave up.

Occasionally I hear a song I like (the comments about Outkast were about right - bu then I'm a major Prince fan so Andre 3000's fixation with the Purple one get my vote anyway) but that's about it - the occasional song. I'm just not interested enough in the music to go there.

Most of it just annoys the hell out of me. I'm old and old fashioned i'm afraid...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2005 at 11:05
I am the only teenager (besides maybe Reed Lover and Sweetnighter) that listens to prog. I mean, every kid discovers DSOTM and the Wall in their time; but I am talking about the more esoteric "core" of prog like Yes, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, Marillion, and Rush. All the teens I have met face-to-face only like rap. I find rap repetitive (talking about drugs, gangland happenings, welfare, lashing out at Prez Bush, and other democratic soapbox issues) and always dwelling on one particular melody in a song. It is so annoying with the glittery backbeats and keyboard noises.
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"Yes, music does not gain or lose value based on genre."

Check out Atmosphere, Immortal Technique, K-Os. There is some really good rap out there, just have an open mind.
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No offence mwb, but this is a non starter as a discussion. All music is art.

Just because most of us have no time for hip hop does not invalidate it as art. Millions of people love it, are moved by it and are insprired by it. There will always be an enormous market for music that 'speaks' to people about issues that actually affect them and their communities. It could, therefore, be argued that hip hop is a form of folk music, and I'm sure there are quite a few folk around here who would defend folk music as an art form.

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